770's vs SR80's vs MDR-V6
post-198486
Thread Starter
Post #1 of 29

Squalish

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Oct 15, 2002
Messages
905
Reaction score
11
Joined
Oct 15, 2002
Posts
905
Likes
11
Are the beyer DT770's better than the grado SR80's?

Furthermore, if I decide to go with closed phones(not sure what I want until I figure out how much money is left over after my new computer), are the DT770's better in every way than the Sony MDR-V6's(I think they should be, as they are both held in high regard and the 770's are thrice as expensive)?

I found the DT770's for $75, and I'm comparing to the other two.

Lastly, could you post a link to any good deals on the either the SR80's or the V6's? I tried to find new V6's for cheap, but lowest I can find is I think $65, with most sites having replaced them with the crappy V600's. The SR80's I found for $85.
 
     Share This Post       
post-198497
Post #2 of 29

dohminator

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
May 15, 2002
Messages
563
Reaction score
0
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
563
Likes
0
You need an amp for the dt 770, so figure that into costs.

You may want to look into audio technica at www.audiocubes.com

There are supposed to be some new ones coming out. They should be pretty good. I have the A55 and it is pretty good. It has a bit of exagerated bass though. the new A500 might solve that that problem though.

I'm not sure when they will be offered though.
 
     Share This Post       
post-198822
Post #3 of 29

Squalish

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Oct 15, 2002
Messages
905
Reaction score
11
Joined
Oct 15, 2002
Posts
905
Likes
11
Bump for more feedback.
 
     Share This Post       
post-198965
Post #4 of 29

bioxeed

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Oct 8, 2002
Messages
126
Reaction score
0
Joined
Oct 8, 2002
Posts
126
Likes
0
I have a pair of 770 pros and love them. BUT they clamp your head quite hard and aren't so good if you have a larger than average head.

you'll definately want an amp to drive them as well.

I haven't head either the V6 or SR80 though. so I can't give a comparison there.
 
     Share This Post       
post-199140
Post #5 of 29

purk

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 26, 2001
Messages
10,238
Reaction score
2,227
Joined
Sep 26, 2001
Posts
10,238
Likes
2,227
Hi,
Grado SR-80 is much better than the V6, but it is not a sealed design, so you left with the V6 and DT770. Why not add the Senn HD-280pro to your equation. Many people seems to agree that the HD-280 is slighly superior than the V6. The V6 is very efficient with excellent clarity. The low notes are excellent, the high can be a harsh, but acceptable by most of the people here. The problem lies in the midband, where the midrange seems too laidback. Oh, I also recommend the Denon ATH-D950 for your purchase. The Denon is very rare and is also better than the V6. I can't say, about the HD280pro.

Purk
 
     Share This Post       
post-199150
Post #6 of 29

gloco

Only one ban in 5000 attempts!
Joined
Oct 19, 2001
Messages
7,047
Reaction score
18
Joined
Oct 19, 2001
Posts
7,047
Likes
18
Quote:

Originally posted by purk
Oh, I also recommend the Denon ATH-D950 for your purchase. The Denon is very rare and is also better than the V6. I can't say, about the HD280pro.

Purk


Why do i have a hard time believing that the Denon can is better? I owned the 210's and 350's and the bass was bloated and lacked any treble or midrange, they sounded a hell of a lot like DJ cans. Based on some other folks comments regarding the Denon 950's, i say avoid them, their overpriced junk.

The Beyer's sound great when driven with an external amp or even through the headphone jack of a receiver. I've found my Sony D33/Cmoy/Beyer 770 rig to sound quite nice. The Beyer's have excellent extended bass, while the Sony's can sound unfocused in comparison. I've found the soundstage on the Beyer's to rival both the Grado and Sony cans, plus the midrange is magical. It also doesn't hurt that the Beyer's handle all genres of music very well. The Beyer's are a great closed headphone, i definitely recommend them.
 
     Share This Post       
post-199276
Post #7 of 29

SumB

500+ Head-Fier
Joined
Jun 21, 2001
Messages
818
Reaction score
10
Joined
Jun 21, 2001
Posts
818
Likes
10
Quote:

are the DT770's better in every way than the Sony MDR-V6's


Not quite. The V6's have more upper midrange (whereas the Beyers de-emphasize it somewhat), although it sounds quite nasty.

At $75 buy a few pairs!
 
     Share This Post       
post-200673
Post #8 of 29

Toe

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Aug 6, 2001
Messages
305
Reaction score
10
Joined
Aug 6, 2001
Posts
305
Likes
10
Quote:

Originally posted by gloco
Why do i have a hard time believing that the Denon can is better? I owned the 210's and 350's and the bass was bloated and lacked any treble or midrange, they sounded a hell of a lot like DJ cans.


By the same logic, the HD600s would probably sound like ass because the HD490s sound like ass...
 
     Share This Post       
post-200677
Post #9 of 29

purk

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 26, 2001
Messages
10,238
Reaction score
2,227
Joined
Sep 26, 2001
Posts
10,238
Likes
2,227
Toe,
Quote:

By the same logic, the HD600s would probably sound like ass because the HD490s sound like ass...


Thanks..
 
     Share This Post       
post-200732
Post #10 of 29

gloco

Only one ban in 5000 attempts!
Joined
Oct 19, 2001
Messages
7,047
Reaction score
18
Joined
Oct 19, 2001
Posts
7,047
Likes
18
Quote:

Originally posted by Toe
By the same logic, the HD600s would probably sound like ass because the HD490s sound like ass...


Why dont you try quoting the part where i said people WHO OWNED the 950's complained about the same thing on headfi?

thanks.

And by my logic, the V900's suck ass because the V600's suck ass.

Get the idea?

I'm sure you do.
 
     Share This Post       
post-200740
Post #11 of 29

purk

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 26, 2001
Messages
10,238
Reaction score
2,227
Joined
Sep 26, 2001
Posts
10,238
Likes
2,227
Gloco,
I don't think the Denon 950 is that bad of a headphone. Have you heard it? I'm sure it is not up to the level of my Senn HD-580 and my Audio Technica ATH-100Ti. If you don't agree with my opinion, then fine. I also have the V6 and grado SR-80, b/f so I know where the Denon places in my line up.

I agree with you on the V600 and V900 argument, but I disagree with you on the D950. A definition of "junk" is belong to the V900, and V600. Oh, I also had both phones b/f and decided to sell them.

Purk
 
     Share This Post       
post-200746
Post #12 of 29

poorimpulsectrl

100+ Head-Fier
Joined
Sep 24, 2002
Messages
199
Reaction score
0
Joined
Sep 24, 2002
Posts
199
Likes
0
Squalish, I have the SR80's and the DT770's and will be putting up a review shortly after I have burned in the newly acquired DT770's.
 
     Share This Post       
post-200747
Post #13 of 29

gloco

Only one ban in 5000 attempts!
Joined
Oct 19, 2001
Messages
7,047
Reaction score
18
Joined
Oct 19, 2001
Posts
7,047
Likes
18
Quote:

Originally posted by purk
Gloco,
I don't think the Denon 950 is that bad of a headphone. Have you heard it? I'm sure it is not up to the level of my Senn HD-580 and my Audio Technica ATH-100Ti. If you don't agree with my opinion, then fine. I also have the V6 and grado SR-80, b/f so I know where the Denon places in my line up.

I agree with you on the V600 and V900 argument, but I disagree with you on the D950. A definition of "junk" is belong to the V900, and V600. Oh, I also had both phones b/f and decided to sell them.

Purk


Ok, i think its junk because its overpriced for the performance you get out of it (does it still retail for $150+ ?). After hearing and owning several pairs of the 210's and 350's and then hearing the 7506's, there's no reason why anyone would want to own a Denon can. As far as i'm concerned, Denon cans fall into the same class as the Sony DJ line.
 
     Share This Post       
post-200756
Post #14 of 29

purk

Headphoneus Supremus
Joined
Sep 26, 2001
Messages
10,238
Reaction score
2,227
Joined
Sep 26, 2001
Posts
10,238
Likes
2,227
Gloco,
I don't think you see my point here. I don't just own the V6, but I also own the Denon 950, and previously own the JVC D-A990, Sony V600, Sony V900, and Grado SR-80.

I don't call Denon a "junk," b/c it is very musical and has no problem out shine the V6. Denon is an expensive cans, I agree on that point, however, it is very efficient and sounds good on every source, even from my portable Discman. I've never heard your Denon 350, so I can't comment on that. Out of the phones I've mentioned above I would rate them like this:

1)Grado SR-80
2)Denon ATH-D990 and JVC D-A990
3)Sony MDR-V6

GAP

15)sony mdr-V900
50)Sony MDR-V600.

Do I think the Denon ATH-D950 worth the price tag of 150 dollars? No!, but then, you can find them for around 120 at DJmart.com (the V6 also sell here). IMO, I think it is a good headphone and "yes" it is better than the V6, but not 2 times better.

Quote:

After hearing and owning several pairs of the 210's and 350's and then hearing the 7506's, there's no reason why anyone would want to own a Denon can.




Well, then again....how much is the 210's and 350's? I just don't think it is fair if you based your judgement from 30-40 dollars headphone.
 
     Share This Post       
post-200758
Post #15 of 29

gloco

Only one ban in 5000 attempts!
Joined
Oct 19, 2001
Messages
7,047
Reaction score
18
Joined
Oct 19, 2001
Posts
7,047
Likes
18
Question: is the bass on your Denons a bit bloated or refined? Especially in the midrange, unfortunately i never got to try them out, but based on some folks remarks, they appear to have that bloated mid-bass like the 210's and 350's.
 
     Share This Post       

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top