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Just throwing in a thought about deadly's build.
Reading all this, I get the impression the person this build is for isn't very comfortable with maintaining their own build/opening and tweaking their system. For of course with that, warranty might be less important, but for a people who just buys computers, that could be the only thing that can save them and offer them sort in the case something does fail.
System builders with a limited budget may focus a lot on getting the best value in terms of performance and...dare I say "future proofing?" But for the average person, they just want to get a good enough PC that is cheaper than buying one at the store, and know that it's reliable to use.
Same thing with used parts vs new. You can probably swap out a PSU yourself without a second thought, maybe remove the GPU shroud without panicking at the "warranty void if removed" sticker and replace a fan or reapply the thermal paste after realizing that the GPU is overheating, or know after a quick diagnose that some other part is wrong and need software/hardware tweaking. For someone who doesn't know any of that stuff, it's call Microsoft, turn it on and off then run some diagnostics, hopefully find which part is acting up (or guess in the case the system doesn't run), and call the company responsible for that part, going they give a fix for free. Warranty is the only insurance for many. Sure, hopefully they never need it and based on chance, most probably won't get a defective unit, but when one does or something happens, they'll definitely want it.
A bit anecdotal but take a look at my recent case with my phone. 1 year warranty over 2 didn't matter for most people who take care of their device and put basic protection measures (good case, screen protector, etc.), However, it just so happens the usb port stopped working, and as a result, no power or way of recovering data at first. For me, a battery charger under 7 dollars does the fix. Data can be recovered then with a microSD card.
Bring it to the service centre, they told me warranty is over and that will be 120 Canadian dollars to fix. If I didn't know any better, that would have been 120 dollars. The average person would have definitely wished the phone had a bit better insurance.
As for the 1060...I don't know. 3gb vs 6gb should indeed be considered different cards, but I'll say that I'll lean toward the 3gb one for this case. Maybe in many years problems it won't perform as well, but you can turn the settings down a bit. That much of a price increase seems a bit steep to be honest for the extra 3gb of VRAM for me.
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Reunited with workstation PC. Thinking of repasting my R9 390 To bring down idle temps a bit. The fans would kick in even if I just start moving the mouse for a while and it gets annoying in the summer.
Never opened up GPU shrouds before a any advice?
I just know to carefully unplug the cables for the fans and LEDs and give a generous amount of paste to cover the entire die, as there's no heat spreader compared to desktop GPUs. Also watch the pads for the vrm.
Any really beginner mistakes to look out for?
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Bought this years ago but never used it. Finally reunited!
Also remembering when "VR Ready" HDMI cables wasn't a thing yet.
Reading all this, I get the impression the person this build is for isn't very comfortable with maintaining their own build/opening and tweaking their system. For of course with that, warranty might be less important, but for a people who just buys computers, that could be the only thing that can save them and offer them sort in the case something does fail.
System builders with a limited budget may focus a lot on getting the best value in terms of performance and...dare I say "future proofing?" But for the average person, they just want to get a good enough PC that is cheaper than buying one at the store, and know that it's reliable to use.
Same thing with used parts vs new. You can probably swap out a PSU yourself without a second thought, maybe remove the GPU shroud without panicking at the "warranty void if removed" sticker and replace a fan or reapply the thermal paste after realizing that the GPU is overheating, or know after a quick diagnose that some other part is wrong and need software/hardware tweaking. For someone who doesn't know any of that stuff, it's call Microsoft, turn it on and off then run some diagnostics, hopefully find which part is acting up (or guess in the case the system doesn't run), and call the company responsible for that part, going they give a fix for free. Warranty is the only insurance for many. Sure, hopefully they never need it and based on chance, most probably won't get a defective unit, but when one does or something happens, they'll definitely want it.
A bit anecdotal but take a look at my recent case with my phone. 1 year warranty over 2 didn't matter for most people who take care of their device and put basic protection measures (good case, screen protector, etc.), However, it just so happens the usb port stopped working, and as a result, no power or way of recovering data at first. For me, a battery charger under 7 dollars does the fix. Data can be recovered then with a microSD card.
Bring it to the service centre, they told me warranty is over and that will be 120 Canadian dollars to fix. If I didn't know any better, that would have been 120 dollars. The average person would have definitely wished the phone had a bit better insurance.
As for the 1060...I don't know. 3gb vs 6gb should indeed be considered different cards, but I'll say that I'll lean toward the 3gb one for this case. Maybe in many years problems it won't perform as well, but you can turn the settings down a bit. That much of a price increase seems a bit steep to be honest for the extra 3gb of VRAM for me.
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Reunited with workstation PC. Thinking of repasting my R9 390 To bring down idle temps a bit. The fans would kick in even if I just start moving the mouse for a while and it gets annoying in the summer.
Never opened up GPU shrouds before a any advice?
I just know to carefully unplug the cables for the fans and LEDs and give a generous amount of paste to cover the entire die, as there's no heat spreader compared to desktop GPUs. Also watch the pads for the vrm.
Any really beginner mistakes to look out for?
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Bought this years ago but never used it. Finally reunited!
Also remembering when "VR Ready" HDMI cables wasn't a thing yet.
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