New Burson Conductor - V2 and V2+
Apr 25, 2016 at 2:40 AM Post #286 of 1,276
If its a non warranty issue and you have an ESD strap. I'd take out the DAC card wipe the connectors with IPA and reseat a couple of times. If not just keep monitoring and Email Burson for advice...
Better to ask first...

Good luck regardless
Dave
 
Apr 25, 2016 at 5:26 AM Post #287 of 1,276
That is unlucky, may be it will go away with a more burn-in?
 
I think Burson has a partner in the US.   Their Lycan Opamp testing bench is assembled in the US. So it may not have to go all the way to Australia.
 
My Conductor Gen 1 doesn't run very hot either, even the amp section is the same as the Soloist.  I think this may be due to the larger size of the Conductor, more surface area may be.
 
Still trying to burn-in the V2 a bit more before posting more comments about the sound, but its sounding good so far!
 
Apr 25, 2016 at 6:27 AM Post #289 of 1,276
Vegan
 
Early impression is that, its still a Burson, so don't expect differences to be significant.  But to my ears the bass quantity is slightly less, while the quality is a big improvement.  More layers, and can more easily pick out bass instruments.
 
But will need to find more time.  Not so easy when you have two young daughters running around (well only one running for now anyway!)
 
Victor
 
Apr 25, 2016 at 7:21 AM Post #290 of 1,276
Thanks for that Victor :)
Seems to be all but universal for the shiny new kit to be rather lean and bass-shy.
I could well be wrong, but imagine any differences being more pronounced with big stuff like orchestras. Although, given all the extra detail coming through at low volumes, more joy may well be had with the small, intimate material as well.
Luke
 
Apr 25, 2016 at 6:22 PM Post #291 of 1,276
Thanks for the sympathy notes, guys. We'll see how tonight's listening session goes. Hopefully, no static! I had my wife turn in on for me while I was at work so that it has a good six hours or more on it today before I start listening.
The bass is slightly more shy than the Soloist but I wouldn't call it bass shy. It still slams pretty good, more so than other amps that I've auditioned. With more listening hours under my belt with the V2+, I believe that to get the added transparency,soundstage and reduced grain with the V2, the bass authority, sparkle and just overall energy of the Soloist was pulled back a bit. Leading edge attacks are not quite as crisp as on the Soloist. I believe it was a good trade off but others might interpret the sound as being a bit more analytical. If one is to call it analytical,which I disagree with, it would only be so when compared to the Soloist/Conductor. It's still a very musical amp.

Update. I've had the V2+ on for about 8 hours now without the random static noise coming thru.
So the recap is.
Day 1. Random static every few minutes in right channel for several hours non stop, changed cables,headphones, etc. isolated to amp.
Day 2. Heard one definite random static after amp was on for 4 hours. Didn't happen again with continued listening.
Day 3. After more than 8 hours of running, no random static heard.
 
Apr 26, 2016 at 12:23 AM Post #292 of 1,276
Another new/happy V2+ owner here - have had mine since Friday - after some initial burning in time (of both the V2+ and my T90 headphones) I would concur that this is a significant piece of gear - very very good indeed. I had some initial harshness with some MP3 tracks of rap/bright treble issues but these have disappeared after nearly 3 days non stop playing. I also know the t90 takes some time to burn in so no surprises there.
 
I've come from a more expensive set up (Metrum Hex and WA6SE/Aurix) and I'm completely happy with this new amp/dac/preamp  -  My last set up was 4x the cost and I can quite happily say now that this particular piece of equipment will be doing service for a good long time without any feeling of compromise at all.
 
Highlights for me are the sheer level of detail and clarity, whilst at the same time sounding laid back warm and relaxing.....even with the T90 (now that they have been well thrashed for a while). It seems to be strong with all genres of music - It's stunning with Classical but also quite happy blasting out Judas Priest at ear splitting levels (and sounds excellent). I tried the original Conductor ESS9018 with the stepped attenuator and this is a totally different beast.
 
It's also stunning listening at low levels - excellent volume control and no loss of clarity.
 
I would suspect also that the V2+ itself needs a good long time to bed in - 50+ hours ideally.
 
Apr 26, 2016 at 12:25 AM Post #293 of 1,276
Thanks for the Day 3 update.
Strange that the random static would be something that go away over time...
But great if it does indeed go away! Fingers crossed.

Interesting to note the reduced sparkle compared to the soloist. From my experience burning in gear, things usually start off bright and mellow over time. Hopefully the V2+ will continue to blossom :)
 
Apr 26, 2016 at 2:06 PM Post #295 of 1,276
Thanks for the Day 3 update.
Strange that the random static would be something that go away over time...
But great if it does indeed go away! Fingers crossed.

Interesting to note the reduced sparkle compared to the soloist. From my experience burning in gear, things usually start off bright and mellow over time. Hopefully the V2+ will continue to blossom :)

Listening V2+ more than a week and lucky me I don't have any static. (Tried on all ports USB/Toslink and RCA in I and II)
 
Apr 26, 2016 at 6:06 PM Post #296 of 1,276
Day 4 . Another day with no static. This is great news. Btw, the random static was not source dependent. All that was required to hear it was to turn on the amp , plug in headphones and wait for it to happen. I'm feeling quite confident that it was a day 1 anomaly and will not happen again. I've run this thing for 10 hours yesterday and it never surfaced. Going strong and trouble free today too.

(Audeze LCD-4 and Hifiman HE-1k with Cardas Clear cable) With continued break in, this thing is fantastic! More and more musical sounding as the days go by. I still have my Soloist to compare to. I am quite confident that Burson knew exactly what had to be done to take all the positives of the Soloist/Conductor and expand on that with added transparency, soundstage and less grain. They pulled back a wee bit on the Soloist speed, energy and sparkle but the result is near perfection IMO. The bass authority has further improved over the last four days and I no longer feel that it is slightly less than the Soloist. This amp ,to my ear, is the Soloist (speed,sparkle,authority) and Audio-GD Master 9 (transparent,smooth,grain free) rolled into one. Impressive and impressed!
 
Apr 26, 2016 at 6:24 PM Post #297 of 1,276
That is great to hear!  Now you can put your worries behind you and really start enjoying the music and the Burson.
 
BTW I did you feel that even the mid bass is slightly less than the Soloist, but I can feel the sub-bass more.  May be because of that, the V2 has more of a sense of clarity in the bass than the Soloist.
 
Anyway enjoy the Burson, and come back and tell us more about what you think.
 
Victor
 
Apr 27, 2016 at 6:58 PM Post #298 of 1,276
Day 5...still no static. Burson was all ready to ship me a replacement unit too. I told them that I will reseat the dac board to make sure that wasn't the problem and that I will monitor to see if amp ever does this again. Still very confident that the issue is behind me now. Burson reassured me that they are there for me should anything go wrong with the unit, even though the static stopped several days ago, I still reseated the dac board. Very clean design inside but the I did notice the toroidal transformers aren't as per-ty as the Soloists. No writing on them and just an ok , somewhat scuffed paint job..
 
Apr 27, 2016 at 9:46 PM Post #300 of 1,276
Ditto - good to hear the evil static hasn't returned.

Curious to hear people's experience with:
1. DSD
2. USB cleaners (Intona, Regen, etc..)
3. Direct comparisons to other DACs
4. Experiences with the Timekeeper Virtuoso
 

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