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Oct 31, 2016 at 11:12 AM Post #13,247 of 75,146
  Have you tried to clarify with the seller what he meant by telling you that you would receive different version of TKY2 ?

 
I never got clarification.  Maybe it was just the second run?  I was sent a preview photo of them and it looks the exact same.  I will have to double check when I get it, any day now.

If I get any new info, I will update.
 
  What is Ting Light? The green one?

 
Yes, the Ting Light is the green one.  The normal Ting comes in either Red or Silver.
 
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Oct 31, 2016 at 8:24 PM Post #13,248 of 75,146
Thanks! This sounds very promising.  The Mars Volta is exactly the kind stuff I had in mind when it comes to fast and complex rock music. I'm curious about how the Ting and TKY2 compare. They are all very reasonably priced, so I don't mind spending the amount for the TKY2 as long as it has the characteristics of the Tomahawk that I want, in addition to better refinement.

 Off to do some more research on these and will definitely pick up at least one of them.


Maybe w/ the right EQ or a better matched source than what I'm using it could be good, but to my own preferences the default sound TKY2 doesn't seem well suited to the heavier rock I've played, particularly at louder volumes. I think you can do better than TKY2 for those genres (maybe the Ting is, haven't heard it).
 
Oct 31, 2016 at 11:40 PM Post #13,250 of 75,146
Isn't the TKY2 a dual driver? I've never heard one that didn't sound strange in one way or another.


yeah, though I'm not sure it's to do with the dual driver- not like it's incoherent or there's an uneven transition thing, the treble just doesnt' seem to match up well with certain types of guitar effect, and kinda 'blares out' past an optimal volume (maybe that is related to the dual?) but that could also be this disease I have where anything that doesn't sound like an HD25 sounds a little wrong to me :p
 
Oct 31, 2016 at 11:52 PM Post #13,251 of 75,146
yeah, though I'm not sure it's to do with the dual driver- not like it's incoherent or there's an uneven transition thing, the treble just doesnt' seem to match up well with certain types of guitar effect, and kinda 'blares out' past an optimal volume (maybe that is related to the dual?) but that could also be this disease I have where anything that doesn't sound like an HD25 sounds a little wrong to me
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I just have a feeling that hybrids have problem zones even when you can't really hear them. The Mojito is closest I know to  a no problem zone multi driver... but what convinced me is when someone in a totally different thread - @Lohb if i'm not mistaken? - had re-terminated a hybrid IEM he liked with a balanced termination. Suddenly the tuning was all wrong and sounded completely messed up. He eventually re-terminated it back to single ended and it sounded fine again, implying the tuning was dependent on a shared ground? Anyway, the moral of the story is I don't trust or buy multi driver units anymore. All single driver for me, for now.
 
Lohb if it wasn't you please accept my apologies for having tagged you. I didn't want to write someone's name and not tag them...
 
In other news my dang **** hasn't shipped yet! I hate this practice of giving tracking numbers and letting them sit around for weeks.
 
Nov 1, 2016 at 12:13 AM Post #13,252 of 75,146
I haven't heard that many hybrids, those did each have a 'problem zone' for me (but that might have just been the tuning, and not so uncommon w/ IEM in general), but I've owned several dualBA and dualDD IEMs that seemed totally coherent with no transition issues, like the fxt90 and q-jays... this is my first dual driver earbud though.
 
Nov 1, 2016 at 1:21 AM Post #13,253 of 75,146
 
I just have a feeling that hybrids have problem zones even when you can't really hear them. The Mojito is closest I know to  a no problem zone multi driver... but what convinced me is when someone in a totally different thread - @Lohb if i'm not mistaken? - had re-terminated a hybrid IEM he liked with a balanced termination. Suddenly the tuning was all wrong and sounded completely messed up. He eventually re-terminated it back to single ended and it sounded fine again, implying the tuning was dependent on a shared ground? Anyway, the moral of the story is I don't trust or buy multi driver units anymore. All single driver for me, for now.
 
Lohb if it wasn't you please accept my apologies for having tagged you. I didn't want to write someone's name and not tag them...
 
In other news my dang **** hasn't shipped yet! I hate this practice of giving tracking numbers and letting them sit around for weeks.

 
It is not so much a 'problem zone' than probably an issue with crossover circuit. There are a few kind of hybrid out there - namely those using an electronic crossover and those that use an mechanical crossover (including those that doesn't actually have any specific crossover implementation). If an hybrid has an electronic crossover (which depends on resistors and capacitors working in a specific order), than it will only work as intended when driving with a very low output impedance source in an single-ended configuration (as this is the most common configuration). Typically changing from a single-ended to balanced configuration (especially with higher than expected output impedance) will mess up the crossover function and thus changing the sound. It is lesser a design's flaw but more of using something in a way that it is not designed for. This is however not so much an issue for mechanical crossover. Many cheap hybrid don't really have electronic crossover at all so they are almost immune to this issue.
 
Nov 1, 2016 at 1:52 AM Post #13,254 of 75,146
**** PT15 arrived. Package is, well, cheap looking, silver cable looks/feels quite nice.
I plug it to my cellphone immediately, and the sound is very very very satisfactory, (I'm tempted to say, beautiful), vocal and instruments alike. 
I have high expectations for these after proper burning-in.
And to those who haven't bought them yet, take your wallet out, now. 

 

 
Nov 1, 2016 at 2:35 AM Post #13,255 of 75,146
  **** PT15 arrived. Package is, well, cheap looking, silver cable looks/feels quite nice.
I plug it to my cellphone immediately, and the sound is very very very satisfactory, (I'm tempted to say, beautiful), vocal and instruments alike. 
I have high expectations for these after proper burning-in.
And to those who haven't bought them yet, take your wallet out, now. 
 
 
 

Give us more...anythinnnggg...lol, the rest of can't wait. 
 
Nov 1, 2016 at 4:01 AM Post #13,257 of 75,146
  **** PT15 arrived. Package is, well, cheap looking, silver cable looks/feels quite nice.
I plug it to my cellphone immediately, and the sound is very very very satisfactory, (I'm tempted to say, beautiful), vocal and instruments alike. 
I have high expectations for these after proper burning-in.
And to those who haven't bought them yet, take your wallet out, now. 
 

Nice. I still wait for my package.
Just now I find that the hiegi donut foam does not alter the treb like MP donut foam, the MP foam makes the sound warmer with more bass and reduce treb.
 
Nov 1, 2016 at 9:17 AM Post #13,258 of 75,146
I paid 4 bucks for these HPM-62's and another 4 or 5 on the premade cable. Took maybe 5 minutes to do, and oh my god these are impressive. I will have to shut up for at least a week. I think i'll do the other 2 HPM 62 I'm hoarding....



It could just be new toy syndrome but they're pretty dang nice.
 
Nov 1, 2016 at 9:23 AM Post #13,259 of 75,146
Well, after 5 hours of incessant white noise and pink noise, I plug PT15 into Macbook>Mojo>Stepdance and listen to Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture, a piece of music that could sound like a mess in many earphones, PT15 passed the test. 
 
  
 
Bass is very realistic but could sound very close. 
Treble is so nice on this Guzheng performance, I feel there is nothing amiss here. 

Soundstage is opener than er4s from the same source. 
Vocals are quite true. 
Could sound bright from time to time. 
I tried donut rings but they significantly reduce clarity, so I just wear them naked. 
 
My ears have been accustomed to er4s, when I had a pair he400i a few weeks ago, I just want to throw them away after several hours of listening. (Well, I didn't throw them away, I actually sold them 
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) I got angry when such a huge headphone could do so many things wrong. With PT15, I don't want to throw them way
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, if anything, I haven't missed my er4s tonight... 
 

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