DO NOT PURCHASE THESE HEADPHONES! My original pair were falling apart, so I arranged for a second pair to be shipped to me. Those started falling apart, so I just decided to be done with them and throw them away. I'm glad that I won them in an Ultrasone sponsored sweepstakes and didn't have to pay anything for them (although it wasn't cheap to send my original defective headphones all the way to Germany in order to get my replacement pair). I am not trying to trash Ultrasone as a company, they have lots of more expensive headphones with excellent reputations among audiophiles that I have not had the money or fortune to try. HOWEVER, these headphones are simply not in the same echelon as those.