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  1. TheKillerPiglet
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    Thoroughly enjoyable review, loved your conversational style. Really makes me want to get the HD800, as well as the obviously required (work with me on this) tube amp for the HP rig. I don't need much convincing on that front: there's a small stash of Bendix 5852 Apollo program rectifier tubes absconded in case, you know, the world explodes. [i]....this story isn't going to end well...[/i] KP KP
    TheKillerPiglet, Dec 29, 2012
  2. TheKillerPiglet
    Thoroughly enjoyable review, loved your conversational style. Really makes me want to get the HD800, as well as the obviously required (work with me on this) tube amp for the HP rig. I don't need much convincing on that front: there's a small stash of Bendix 5852 Apollo program rectifier tubes absconded in case, you know, the world explodes. [i]....this story isn't going to end well...[/i] KP
    TheKillerPiglet, Dec 29, 2012
  3. Night Crawler
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    Great read. In fact, this review pushed me over the fence, and I just placed my order! The HD800 has been on my list even since I discovered Head-Fi a few years back (though I registered much later), but I never fully convinced. Now that I've invested more than I care to share into properly driving the HE-6, I'm more than willing to experiment with the HD800. Knowing that it scales very well with better gear is most reassuring! Can't wait! :]
    Night Crawler, Dec 29, 2012
  4. Night Crawler
    Great read. In fact, this review pushed me over the fence, and I just placed my order! The HD800 has been on my list even since I discovered Head-Fi a few years back (though I registered much later), but for one reason or another, I was never fully convinced. Now that I've invested more than I care to share into properly driving the HE-6, I'm more than willing to experiment with the HD800. Knowing that it scales very well with better gear is most reassuring! Can't wait! :]
    Night Crawler, Dec 29, 2012
  5. StratocasterMan
    I enjoyed your review, but be careful with your analogies. Four cylinder Ferraris do in fact exist. They are extremely rare and valuable. Since Ferrari has never made a 16-cylinder car, were you to drop a 16-cylinder engine into one of the four cylinder Ferraris, you would utterly destroy it's value! It may be best that you stick with headphones and avoid the Italian car market ;-)
    StratocasterMan, Dec 29, 2012
  6. XxDobermanxX
    Nice write up lol
    XxDobermanxX, Dec 29, 2012
  7. reeltime
    TheKillerPiglet (my favorite name yet), I've opted to go with new tubes for the WA5LE. I have a nightmare scenario rolling around my head-- where I buy 2 gorgeous vintage tubes at a premium price-- and they aren't perfectly matched. With the HD800, every nuance and irregularity gets amplified. For the rectifier, I've landed on EML 5U4G Mesh, but the real change was in the power tubes. I got a huge bass bump when I went from Tung Sol 6SN7 to PSVANE CV-181 TII series. They just came out and it's made a major statement with the HD800. Next is the 300B output tubes, I'm going again with EML 300B Mesh. $2000 for the Wester Electric's makes my tummy hurt. They're wait-listed until 2014, anyway, and having read everything in the universe on the 300B, the Sofia Royal Princess 300B isn't an ideal match for the HD800. I've found a W4S DAC-2 on eBay-- it will get here next week. The Burson is up for bid. Night Crawler, If you have amps that will drive the HE-6, you're in great shape for the HD800. The point of this article is that even though lesser amps will move the cones, until you supply real power, you won't start engaging the rich sub-bass the HD800 has in reserve. I've been wondering if the Dark Star might be another terrific match for the HD800, with all that power on-hand. StratocasterMan, I hear what you're saying, but you still understood my meaning. I write stream of conscience and I'm not a Ferrari aficionado, but I'll change the analogy to 12-cylinder if it suits you. The meaning doesn't change. In the same way, Keef is playing a Telecaster, but I'm still willing to bet you love your Strats.
    reeltime, Dec 29, 2012
  8. TheKillerPiglet
    I still have to get used to the idea of 6SN7's as power tubes, they have been pre-amp tubes in my mind for so long. There's a certain appeal to a head amp that burns these You see, I have another "world may explode" stash of American 6SN7's. Somewhere. Not sure where. Somewhere. That's the danger with tubes: you have to be careful what you listen to. Once one comes across a set that just lights up in particular circuit, it is hard to pull away. I have a couple of Cuban cigar boxes full of European e88/6922 types. Sadly, I only have two spare sets of 60's Siemen's CCa's and one pair of Telefunken <> (<> is not an emoticon). Last totally silent set of grey plate CCa's went into the AN DAC last year along with one of the Bendix rectifiers. Ten years use on the Bendix, 8 on the CCa's before one got a little noisy, power on 24/7. Would it be possible to live with the Amparex's, Valvos, Mullards? Well, unless I have horribly miscalculated and/or there is a substantial increase in life expectancy during, well, during my lifetime I may never find out. KP
    TheKillerPiglet, Dec 30, 2012
  9. TheKillerPiglet
    Ah... see what you have done? I just dragged the big Audio Note off the music room rack, cleared my desk, move my monitors. Nothing fancy: feeding it SPIDF RCA from motherboard, going the the V200, HE500's... but this, this is the "why" of tubes... [i]....this story isn't going to end well...[/i] KP
    TheKillerPiglet, Dec 30, 2012
  10. Night Crawler
    reeltime, you certainly weren't kidding. I received my first ever HD800's today, and came to the very same conclusion. The HD800 is very source dependent! Most of my amps left me completely underwhelmed, save for two in particular. The first is my DACmini PX, which has served as my all time favorite amp for notably the LCD2 and HD650 (among a few other cans I own). Suffice to say, the HD800 sounds simply incredible with the PX. The second amp will take many by surprise, and while I'm sure there are a 100 better, much more powerful alternatives out there (for which I care not at this point in time, lol), the Headstage Arrow 3G has never once ceased to impress me. In fact, before the PX, it was my most preferred go to amp for the HE-300, HE-400, HE-500, and HD650, and to this day it remains one of my absolute favorites. Reason being, the Arrow not only packs enormous power (considering it's size), it also features one of the cleanest bass boosts I've encountered, period. That's inclusive of the Zo (both the original and second generation), I might add. In any case, the Arrow serves as merely a portable solution, whilst the PX is my official at home, go to amp for the HD800. In either case, I'm very content with how the HD800 sounds. Now, my only other concern is which of the three (HD650, HD700, HD800) I intend to keep. :P
    Night Crawler, Jan 2, 2013