Edifier H850 Hi-fi Over-Ear Monitor Audiophile Headphones Black

Pros: Lightweight and super comfortable to wear, Balanced tuning, Works well with most genres of music, Detachable 3.5 mm cable
Cons: Too many plastic parts, Cookie cutter design, Lacking accessories, Pads are non-replaceable, Neutral-ish tuning is not for everyone
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At the time of the review, the Edifier headphones were for sale on Amazon.com. Here is a link for information and purchase:
 
https://www.amazon.com/Edifier-H850-Over---ear-Headphones/dp/B013J8DROA/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1467921354&sr=1-8&keywords=edifier
 
Introduction
The thing I love about budget earphones is the great price to performance you can get sometimes. Not only that, there is less risk of being out of your hard earned dollars if you buy a product and don’t like it (thanks to the lower asking prices). Combine the vast majority of budget gear and the Head-Fi community's feedback, we have a renaissance of sorts. There are many great lower priced earphones being sold, and with Head-Fi's forums we know which ones perform well and are geared towards our preferences.
 
With smartphones in almost everybody’s hands, there are many who are looking for a great pair of budget earphones. Because of this there is great competition to bring great in-ear monitors and headphones to market, at prices lower than their competition.
 
Edifier is more known for their speakers, but they have also dabbled in the world of budget earphones. Today we will cover their budget audiophile headphone, the H850.  
 
Disclaimer
I was given an opportunity to review the H850 in exchange for my honest opinion and review. I am in no way affiliated with Edifier. I would like to take this time to personally thank Edifier for the opportunity.
 
My Background
I AM NOT a numbers and graphs audiophile or sound engineer. Personal audio enthusiast? Absolutely! Headphone junkie? Possibly…
 
There’s something about quality DAPs, DACs, Amplifiers and Earphones that intrigues me. I want to hear any earphone that looks promising, in hopes that I can share my impressions with  enthusiasts and help them find the audio product they’re looking for. My Head-Fi profile has a list of audio products ranked from favorite to least favorite. For me, this hobby is more about getting great price to performance ratio from a product, and having a variety of different gear to mix and match. With personal audio gear, we tend to pay a lot of money for minor upgrades. One thing I’ve learned over the last few years is that just because a headphone has a higher price tag, it doesn’t mean that it has superior build and sound quality.
 
I’m always looking for great audio at a great price. I’m after headphones and IEMs that give me the “WOW” factor. I can appreciate different builds and sound signatures as long as they are solidly built, with ergonomics and sound that is pleasing to my ears. It’s my pleasure to share my experiences with audio products and make recommendations based on gear I have owned and used.
 
REVIEW
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The H850 comes in a black and white packaging with gray and silver accents. The front of the package features a very nice high definition photo of the headphones along with the product name.
 
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The back of the package displays a few smaller pictures of the product, along with some key features listed in four different languages. The sides of the package have some more pictures of the product.
 
Specifications and Accessories
 
SPECIFICATIONS
H850  FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 20Hz~20kHz
IMPEDANCE: 32Ω
CONNECTOR TYPE: Straight
MAXIMUM POWER: 50mW
SOUND PRESSURE LEVEL: 96dB
CABLE LENGTH: 2m
WEIGHT: 0.17KG
CONNECTOR: 3.5mm
INLINE CONTROL: No
 
ACCESSORIES
1X H850 Headphone
1X Adapter Cable
1X User Manual
 
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It’s kind of disappointing to see Edifier not offer more in terms of accessories. I would liked to have seen a phone cable and a carrying case included in the package.
 
Overall Build
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This is a mixed bag for me. Opening the package, the first thing that comes to mind is that these have a OEM build reminiscent to many budget bluetooth headphones from MEEaudio and Ausdom. They are mostly plastic and synthetic protein material. On a positive note, it appears as though Edifier has used metal in critical areas that would be prone to breaking easily. Even still, if you sit or step on these things I can almost guarantee breakage.
 
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The headband is made of a combination of a flexible metal band and plastic and synthetic protein components. Metal slides with notches built into it slide in and out of the arm of the headphone which lead to the cups. Overall, the band is simple and very flexible.  
 
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The metal bands of the headphone attach to plastic arms on each side that leads to a swiveling joint that allows the cups to turn inward about ninety degrees. From there another set of hinges attaches the H850 cups to the arms, allowing the cups to also swivel up and down enough to guarantee a proper fit for just about any shape of head.
 
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The cups are constructed primarily of plastic and has what appears to be a piece of brushed aluminum with the Edifier logo printed on it as a back plate. It is pretty standard in terms of shape and size. A 3.5 mm plug with an exclusive locking mechanism is located on the bottom of the left cup.
 
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The cups of the H850 are a padded synthetic protein material that rests very comfortably on the ears. Those with larger ears might have an issue with the pads making contact with the outer parts of their ears. For the most part this shouldn’t be an issue for most. One big negative, the pads of the H850 are adhered to the cup, making them permanently fixed, and making replacing the pads not possible without considerable modifications.
 
Overall, the H850 offers positive and negative aspects to it’s construction. On one hand they are very lightweight and set up to be very comfortable. On the other hand the overall feel is slightly cheap. Moving them around in my hands, I can hear and feel the faint popping and rubbing sounds of plastic components.
 
Cable, Cable Jacks, Strain Reliefs
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The H850 cable is six feet in length, has a straight designed 3.5 mm jack and another special locking 3.5 mm jack that attaches to the headphones. The cable is jacketed in a rubbery material that has a considerable amount of spring and memory. The cable doesn’t feel very premium, and aside from having the locking mechanism, it’s on the cheaper and more generic side of the quality spectrum. I wish they cable was more premium, or that they would have at least refrained from using the locking mechanism. Doing so would have made finding an aftermarket cable easier. Even still, using a 3.5 mm cable with a skinny straight style jacketing on the plug can be used with no problem.
 
Functionality
The H850 is a plug and play device designed specifically for sound quality. The fact that they have a replaceable 3.5 mm cable, buying an aftermarket cable with a microphone and remote is a possibility.
 
Comfort, Microphonics, Isolation
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The lightweight build, very flexible headband, oscillating cups and soft ear pads makes this a VERY comfortable pair of headphones. They are so comfortable, it’s almost like not wearing headphones at all. I am confident many will feel the same, even those with larger heads. I was able to wear them for extended periods with no problem. The clamping force is so light, it doesn’t create an issue, and pads stay very cool for a closed headphone. There was no microphonics to report. However, there is some occasional popping and creaking when using them on the go (with the volume turned down) from the plastic components. Isolation is below average for a closed headphone, and more along the lines of a semi-open headphone.
 
Sound Review
I did my demo with my usual gear. I used an LG-V10 for smartphone use, and either my Shanling H3 or iBasso DX80 DAP/Bushmaster D14 DAC/Amp for high fidelity portable use. For desktop use, I used my Toshiba Satellite Laptop in combination with a ifi micro iDSD playing at 32/192 kHz. I tested them with several other sources as well. I used Google Music in its highest download quality (320 KBPS), and also streamed FLAC via Tidal streaming service. I also used purchased and downloaded tracks in MP3, FLAC, WAV and DSD. I make sure that any gear I test has sufficient playtime before writing a review.
 
I used my usual same songs for testing gear:
“Limit to your love” by James Blake (bass speed, punch, response)
“Doin’ it Right” by Daft Punk (sub bass)
“Get lucky” by Daft Punk (bass to midrange transition resolution, male vocals)
“Madness” by Muse (soundstage, separation)
“Some nights” by Fun (soundstage and male vocals)
“The soundmaker” by Rodrigo y Gabriela (texture and imaging)
“Bassically” by Tei Shi (bass to midrange resolution, female vocals)
“Skinny Love” performed by Birdie (female vocals, acoustic playback)
“One” by Ed Sheeran (male vocals, acoustic playback)
“Outlands” from the Tron Legacy Soundtrack (symphonic presentation, imaging)
“Sultans of swing” by Dire Straits (detail, separation, balance)
“And Justic for All” by Metallica (driver distortion, treble response, rock playback)
“Ten thousand fists” by Disturbed (driver distortion, treble response, rock playback)
 
Note: Other tracks were used, but the listed songs were primarily used to assess and break down the gear’s response.
 
Source Selection
The H850 comes in at thirty-two Ohms, but in my experience with the product the power demands seems to exceed this. The H850 can be used with a smartphone, but you will in most cases catch yourself turning the volume higher than most pairs of portable headphones. With my LG-V10 I usually listen to my music at the halfway volume mark. With the H850 I was at three-quarters to achieve the same result. I got some decent sound, but not with the same dynamics as a more powerful DAP or an attached portable DAC/amplifier.  
 
The H850 can be used with your desktop amplifier, but it would in most cases be overkill. I think the sweet spot with these is with your favorite high powered DAP. The very balanced sound will compliment whatever source you use them with. My favorite way of listening to my H850 was with my iBasso DX80 and D14 Bushmaster. Your mileage may vary.
 
In terms of music files, these are very universal. They will sound okay with poor recordings, good when streaming your music, and great with high bitrate files and high quality recordings.

 
Sound Signature
The H850 is one of the most balanced sounding pairs of headphones I’ve had the pleasure of listening to. The mainstream consumer who wants a bassy or V-shaped earphone won’t find it here. The H850 is tuned to give audiophiles a very natural and organic music experience.
 
While the H850 has a very balanced sound, there are some who will feel they lack the “wow” factor some are after. With modern genres of music you will get a decent amount of bass and treble, but it won’t have the same dynamics that other consumer oriented headphones have.
 
I can’t classify the H850 as being either warm or cold sounding. It sits right in between the two, having elements of both types of tuning.
 
Bass
To my ears the bass of the H850 lacks depth, and has a response more on par with most semi-open headphones. During Daft Punk’s “Doin’ it Right” the lowest bass notes were rolled off, and the 40mm drivers couldn’t achieve the lowest of low notes of the song’s bass line. You will get bass with punch, but there’s not a whole lot in terms of rumble.
 
The midbass of the H850 is fantastic. It has a tight and responsive feel. Upper bass notes sound great, and bass guitars sound fantastic. It is a non-intrusive response that is very clean and avoids any type of bleed or distortion from what I heard.
 
Midrange
Lower midrange of the H850 is very clean and I can’t  fault it very much. At this range it almost borders on being somewhat cold sounding to my ears. Male vocals are very natural, even the deeper male vocals sound thin in comparison to most closed headphones. I was able to hear a level of resolution in the lower midrange that I seldom hear in other closed cans. Kudos to Edifier for this.
 
Moving to upper midrange, I really don’t think there’s too much I can say aside from the fact that it is very balanced with the rest of the sound. There’s good detail and resolution. It’s not too forward, and not too far back in the mix. Sorry everyone, I wish I could say more, but these headphones are an engaging and entertaining spin on neutral.
 
Treble
Treble is crisp without being harsh. To my ears it doesn’t have an incredible amount of extension, but carries enough to make them very enjoyable. As with the rest of the tuning, the treble is in good balance with the neighboring frequencies.
 
Soundstage and Imaging
The H850 soundstage is a mixed bag. On one hand we have a headphone that doesn’t seem to have incredible extension on either side of the frequency spectrum. On the other hand the H850 has some very organic and natural sound with good resolution and detail. Because of this I give the H850 an above average score in terms of soundstage. Imaging is very good thanks to it’s realistic sound presentation.
 
Comparisons
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Monoprice 108323 ($23 to $30 USD on many sites)
The 108323 comes in at half the price of the Edifier H850, but don’t let the price fool you. This headphone made the the Innerfidelity wall of fame for a reason. They are the epitome of budget audiophile headphones, offering a level of sound quality that rivals headphones that cost much more.
 
Comparing the two, the 108323 has more sub bass presence and depth. They are a slightly warmer tuned headphone as well. To my ears the H850 is a much airier and audiophile sound. Despite not having the depth, they have a level of clarity and balance that makes the 108323 sound two dimensional and unnatural. Overall, I far prefer the H850 sound.
 
In terms of build and design, the H850 gets a decisive advantage. They have a slightly more solid construction, and the design is more ergonomic. To be honest, I would be embarrassed to wear the 108323 in public because of the very square-ish shaped headband and generic look. The H850 has a more sleek, sophisticated and stylish look for sure.
 
Accessories goes to the 108323. They provide two cables with their headphone as compared to the one single cable of the H850. Both headphones have a poor accessories package. I wish both headphones offered a more premium cable and carrying case.

 
Brainwavz HM2 ($45 to $50 USD on many sites)
The HM2 is a portable budget headphone that I reviewed a few months back. They are a solidly built headphone with okay sound and a nice accessories package.
 
Comparing the two, the HM2 is muddy sounding in comparison. They are much warmer sounding and have similar low end extension and depth. Midbass on the HM2 is much more forward and bloated. Midrange clarity on the H850 is far superior. Treble on the H850 is crisper and more detailed. To my ears, the H850 fidelity runs circles around the HM2.
 
Build quality goes to the HM2. Holding them in my hand they feel like a sturdier headphone that could handle more abuse. The HM2 also has removeable and replaceable pads while the H850 doesn’t. The H850 if far more comfortable however. Bouncing back and forth, the HM2 feels like I’m wearing a vice on my head in comparison to the very cozy H850. In terms of accessories, the HM2 wins, offering two cables and a very nice clamshell case for storage and transport.

 
Conclusion
I personally enjoy the H850 comfort and sound a lot. Over the course of my time listening to them, they have become one of my favorite closed headphones to use when commuting, or for when I want to listen to a more balanced and natural sounding pair of cans.
 
The H850 is not a perfect product. They have a cookie cutter design, and their build isn’t the sturdiest. The stock cable is cheap and there is no storage/carrying case. I think all of these flaws do the H850 no justice. The sound quality far exceeds not only the build quality, but also the asking price.
 
The H850 has sound on par with more expensive headphones. I would love to see Edifier take this sound, add a touch more sub bass depth and presence, improve the build and accessories package, and sell them at a higher asking price. If they did this I would be willing to shell out the cash for them. Even still, Edifier has brought to market a very decent sounding pair of headphones that will win the ears of those looking for a natural and organic sound.
 
When rating this product I have to average all aspects. Weighing in the asking price, I give the H850 four and a half stars for sound quality, five stars for comfort, three stars for overall build quality, and two stars for accessories. Average this out, I give the H850 four stars. They are a great headphone for those looking for balanced audiophile sound on a budget.
 
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Thanks for reading and happy listening!
edifier
edifier
Thank you for the review. 
Pastapipo
Pastapipo
@yawg, Edifier is thanking Hisoundfi, not you.
 
@Hisoundfi Great review, thanks!
LNuneek
LNuneek
I was looking at these. Thanks for biting the bullet.

genclaymore

Headphoneus Supremus
Pros: Very Lightweight, Doesn't benefit being amped, Works with most sources
Cons: Doesn't play well with the SBZ due to it Sound card sound signature, Thin Cable

       

This is a review of the Edifier H850 headphones. They over ear headphones which are very compact, which is handy for people who are looking for headphones that they can take with them. Now they do not fold up but they will fit inside a laptop bag by twisting the cups so they are flat, or even inside of your pocket.
I took a good look at them and they look like to be made out of hard plastic through in my hands they feel like they could break. The padding on the headband does a good job but it wouldn’t hurt to have a bit thicker one as it did get a tad uncomfortable on my head, they are very light headphones of course so weight will not be an issue.
 
The H850s come with a removable cable which you can remove when you putting them away or to take with you. I find the cable to be too thin which can be a problem as they could be easy broken and since it uses a special locking end. Users will have a hard time replacing the cable if it is broken. But it handily to stop the cable from being pulled out but it could also be an issue if you happen to trip over the cable somehow. Which will send the headphones either flying off the cable or snap the cable. Personally I would suggest to keep the cable in the unlock position if you’re sitting at home, but if you’re out in the world roaming the streets than putting it in the lock position would be good.
 
The good things about the H850’s is that they will work from any source rather it’s the onboard audio of a laptop, a tablet or even a phone as the Edifier H850 doesn’t benefit from being amp as they are very easy to drive. I found them to work good on the X-FI pro go but I found them to work even better on the sound blaster Z.
They isolate very well, I barely heard the high speeds of my case fans roaring.
 
 
 
The Setup
I will be using a creative sound blaster Z as my source for this review. Since the Edifier H850’s are easy to drive. I figure the sound blaster z will be a perfect choice.  All of the sound blaster Z settings will be turned off so I can get the actual sound signature of the headphone, and not anything else.
 
The results
I listened to a couple of songs and the one thing that stuck out is the bass, its one note sub woofer style of bass. Which doesn’t work well with a lot of songs that I tried. The mids sound like they’re hidden with the mid-bass at the fore front. I found the highs to be a little detailed but nothing what I’m used to but they are clearly heard.
The sound stage and the sound imaging isn’t done that well with the H850’s. The sound feels like it’s inside my head and the separation of the instruments in the songs isn’t that good. Sounds like they’re really close together which makes them sound smashed together at some points while hard to hear in comparison to each other.
Some songs where there isn’t much mid-bass but low-bass the H850 does good job in the highs in such as ambient or classical might be too bright for some people in that case. But still the sound stage and the sound image is still an issue. 
 
Conclusion
 
The Edifier H850 is an all right headphone but it has a few flaws that stop it in its tracks. It’s ok who doesn’t mind the sound stage being small and the sound imaging not being that good.The highs might brother some people but not every one.

 
Also I feel the cable being thin should be look at as well the locking system, maybe come up with a different way to do it or get rid of it all together. Which will make it easier for people to replace the cable themselves if something happen to the original or at least so a normal cable will fit into the plug.
 
Update: I Got a chance to try it on a Asus Xonar DS last weekend and the bass isn't a issue, so the bass being boomy was related to the way the sound blaster Z sound signature. While the mids still was pushed back, the high's was better on the DS then what they was on the SBZ. So it looks like these wouldn't be a good pairing with the sound blaster Z sound card. But should be fine with any thing else.

Army-Firedawg

1000+ Head-Fier
Pros: Great sound & build for a very respectable price.
Cons: Incredibly recessed mids
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    I have to start this by giving a huge shoutout and thanks to @edifier for supplying me with their newest product in exchange for an honest review.
 
 
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The Opening Experience
 
    From first glancing at the box I can definitely see people getting the impression that these cost a good sum of money for the box is very professionally printed and isn’t cluttered with useless jargon. When you open them you’re greeted with a pleasant smell of faux leather (reminded me of the new car smell almost) and a very simple process to extricate the headphones. Once inside you have the H850’s presented in notably cheap plastic (which is to be expected at this price point) but yet still presented like a very proud product. Overall I must say the unboxing experience was rather respectable for this price range and would say I was given a firm handshake during the greeting.
 
 
 
 
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Construction
 
    The main issue I was worried about when receiving these. From personal experience most product sub $100 are given hardly any care for the build quality. They either feel unnecessarily cheap in your hands, flimsy, or break rather quickly. With the H850 I was pleasantly surprised that these are built almost exactly like the Bose SoundTrue (which says a lot to both parties) and can somewhat rival that of my personal Sony MDR-10RNCip’s.
The padding though I will say I know will break apart within a year's time. I of course haven’t been able to test this but the material it’s made out of isn’t built to last. The headband however I believe is made of either real leather or very high quality faux leather and feel it should last for a good while.
An issue I did have but it’s still a positive overall for the construction, but the cord has a locking mechanism into the headphones which prevent them from being pulled out of the chamber. My unit however, I had to push rather hard for it to go into the socket (yes I aligned the grooves).  And lastly for a mobile set-up I find the cord to be a little bit too long. For it seems to get caught on almost everything and stuck in between my chair & let me tell ya sometimes it’s hard enough getting out of it let alone with the headphones pushing me back in it.
 
 
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Comfort
 
    So how long can one wear these? Do they stay comfortable on one's head for extended listening durations or will one have to occasionally adjust them? Well, for me personally I find them to be very comfortable and respectable isolating. The pressure is just where I like it to be and the cushion had the right amount of padding as to not be a marshmallow but yet not be a rock either. I have worn these in excess of a couple hours at a time without any fatigue at all and feel others experience would be very similar.
 
Sound
 
    Ah, the most important aspect the milk and cookies. Will it be oreos and fresh milk or oatmeal cookies and goat milk? In terms of the Edifier H850’s I wouldn’t say they’re oreos and fresh milk but they’re worlds beyond oatmeal cookies and goat milk. Bizarre analogy aside these are actually pretty good headphones for $60 especially if you’re just wanting a pair to hear music as you study. They’re not the most analytical correct headphone and I can instantly tell that they’re geared towards the mainstream audience but still for the H850 to only be $60 I am rather impressed.
    The soundstage to these are pretty up close and personal but yes respectably detailed. I can comfortably identify individual aspects of a musical piece rather it be from a small group or a median sized orchestra.
    So how do the individual aspects stack up? Well let me explain.
 
Treble
 
    Similar to the bass response, the treble was certainly emphasized in the exchange or the sacrificed mids. The highs reached impressive feats but did tend to taper or towards the upper range. In addition they tended to not sound as natural as I've heard even at this price range. Now negatives aside, I still believe the highs in the H850 is something to behold. Even just for a demo period, Edifier did a darned good job in providing this much musicality in an inexpensive product. I especially found artists such as Lindsey Stirling wonderfully entertaining.

Mids
 
    My personal favorite aspect of an audio piece for to me the mids are the soul of a headphones or speaker. It’s what delivers the vocals and the emotion. The H850 unfortunately doesn’t deliver this well at all. The mids I found to be incredibly recessed and instantly reminded me of the Bose Soundtrue. Now this does actually say a lot for the H850 because these two products sounded incredibly similar. But for me personally I find them both to be very hollow and unsatisfying.
 
Bass
 
         The “thump” on the H850 is pretty darn good. It won't rattle your teeth or anything like that but I was personally pretty impressed with the bass response. It hit pretty hard and backed away in a reasonable manner.  I really found these to be enjoyable in action movies I.e. The Expendables. I wasn't as immersed in the movie as I'm used to but I did rather like those explosions.
 
 
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Conclusion
 
         Over the years I'll be the first to state that I've become quite spoiled in the field of audio quality. I've heard dozens of different brands and hundreds (not speaking figuratively at all) of different products. Quite often I am unable to even listen to products sub $100 because I've learned what to listen for and what to avoid and more often than not sub $100 products are atrocious. But I have to tip my hat because I was quite impressed with the presentation of the H850.         
         Does it have its drawbacks? Absolutely. Is it the type of sound signature I prefer? Quite the opposite in fact. But putting personal bias aside (which I do for every review & product), Edifier did a splendid job and produced a product that would give anyone who doesn't have a very large budget a very respectable, high fidelity headphone that will give them enjoyment without the pressure of of feeling like they have to spend $200 to get decent sound.
 
 
Till next time my friends, also make sure to check out my unboxing & review videos!
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iancraig10

Headphoneus Supremus
Pros: Terrific Clarity in Bass. Comfortable. Cheap.
Cons: Maybe a tad hard in treble?
The Edifier headphones have been tailored for sound by bass player, Phil Jones. There are two versions; the PJB H-850 and the Edifier H850. Edifier also now own Stax. Phil also designed a rather good speaker called the AE1 years ago, let alone speakers that produce decent bass with quality, for performers. He has his own company.

The PJB version, I am familiar with because I've seen it being used in 'pits', where musicians need to monitor themselves closely. For that particular job, you need something that isolates (up to a point) and gives good inner clarity. Not necessarily treble ridden but just clear. They need to play loud so you play properly into them and must be comfortable for a couple of hours. (As long as you are playing in a pit!!)

The Edifier version is cheaper because parts are not matched as closely and there may be some slight differences inside. The transducer 'might' be different and there's better damping on the PJB version so it's less 'peaky' in the treble than the Edifier version.

The interesting thing is how would a musician 'tune' their headphone? Would they go for a thinner AKG sound or a bloaty Denon sound? Whatever it is, it needs to sound what many might refer to as 'musical' whatever that is. However, for working with, they also need to be analytical in that they need to be able to pick out detail of others playing in the band so that they 'blend' as well as possible.

Well, the Edifier is a damned good looking headphone for £31. That's all it costs!! Pros don't like to spend a packet on headphones. I'm that way myself since there's a kind of point where I feel that it's really hard to justify the extra cost for minutia. I've always felt that and so does Phil Jones.

So whether an audiophile would like these is debatable. I do.... Because they are actually ......... Musical!!

They communicate nicely what's going on in the mix and they do involve you.

The Beats headphones try to produce big bass but they really don't have proper control down there, so the bass is both too much and flabby. Beats 2 are better. These have a similar type of bass (which I really find closer to people making music) but there isn't as much bass as the Beats. It's also way more under control. Not as much and way tighter grip. Listening to Genesis, Phil Collins bass drum has real substance and you can still hear the 'skin' being hit. Zep's Bonham pedal squeak can almost be a distraction with the Edifier. I can even hear that it seemed to squeak more on the way up since they follow the main substance of the bass drum. You also plainly hear that he doesn't hit hard most of the time. Even in 'heavier' numbers.

Here's the 'audiophile' description though .....

To me, they sound as though they are quite well extended in the treble with one thing; it feels as though there might be somewhere up there with a suck out. So you get extended treble without lower treble harshness perhaps? Cymbals splash and crash, but there is a slight treble hardness with some recordings To me, as an audiophile, that sounds like something taken out up there though. It gives a 'hi fi' flavour and may cause some to say that mids are reduced. Well, mids 'seem' OK with playback on voices, so imo, it's further up. Perhaps lower or mid treble that has something missing.

I don't mind that since it allows large, performing volume pressures.

Mids seem quite well placed to me. Voices are right without bloom or sibilance.

Bass is again, an audiophile problem perhaps. There is a raise in mid bass and I suspect very deep bass is rolled away after say 100 hz or so. However, bass sounds do hit hard with quite an impact. Bass is actually reproduced quite nicely. Well, he is a bass player! My own feeling is that it could do with some sub bass although there is a terrific 'grip' on bass lines, making them extremely easy to follow.

Listening to a YES album last night showed just how well the Edifier tracks bass lines. There were some really complex passages, where I could not only pick out the bass line with ease, but also hear nuances in how the notes were being played down there. It showed what an incredible bass player he was actually. I could equally pick out many other details in the mix.

I'd say it has a slight hard edge to the sound, but clarity is really good. The solid bass is its major strength I think. Many audiophiles might not like that, but I find that it really inserts guts into the music. Much more like a live bass sound actually, with better clarity than you often get in a room.

So, it might not be of interest to audiophiles but is interesting to hear how another musician might tune their headphone. Similar to my own thoughts with minor differences .....

Raised mid bass, extended treble without glare. But for me, I'd like more sub bass too ... I've been spoilt!!

Then get back in the real world. This is a headphone costing £31. Same as px100, half of px200. Similar I think, to the Creative Audio. It's a good buy and sounds great for that kind of money, although the treble dip is curious to my ears. Or perhaps it's the shape of my ear canals.

I like them and could use them in orchestral or band pit work quite happily. I adjust very quickly to headphones though and I'm not sure that audiophiles do so easily. These are not flat, but very nice; especially at that price. The PJB might be a little more refined perhaps, but at a price.

I have an old PJB H-850 somewhere, so I'll compare. I recognised the Edifier straight away. However, I've spent ages looking for my PJB and I suspect it's in one of my old work haunts. I'll go in and find it. The PJB is a pro headphone, greatly favoured by bass players and live performers.

Listening to a high rate/quality file from Peter Gabriel up loud reveals a bass that has enormous impact with vocals beautifully rendered. The Edifier works well loud and has serious impact for little 40mm drivers. Near life volume kicks them right into life. The PJB's also jump to life at high volume, I remember. I must find them. Bass is incredibly well produced on them.

http://andreweverard.com/2014/06/29/review-pjb-h-850-headphones-why-they-beat-beats-and-at-a-fraction-of-the-price/

http://www.pjbworld.com/product_headphone.html

http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Headphones.html

http://bassmusicianmagazine.com/2014/11/phil-jones-bass-h850-headphones-review/
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bhazard
This is a great headphone for the price, but I don't agree with bass hitting hard. It is noticeably absent below 100hz and it doesn't EQ well when trying to add it. Could have been a stunning headphone with a few more db of that clean bass and less harsh treble.
iancraig10
iancraig10
The treble thing might be the hardness that I referred to. Compared to the k845 it's not actually as harsh up there.

I agree that the bass is rolled away, but for me, the 'hit' of the bass is higher up, say 100 or so hz and the substance is lower. The substance is indeed not as great.

The PJB version is used by many bass players as a rehearsal headphone because it actually reproduces bass guitars well and quite a few musicians use them live, to monitor playback in pits. The Edifier is extremely close to the PJB in that respect, but is cheaper.
iancraig10
iancraig10
On Reflection -

Been using it for a while now and I feel that the mids are a little low. The result is that in order to get a sense of presence, you need to listen at louder volumes and then it sounds more natural. Comparing to say, the Momentum 2 makes this really obvious and shows how good the mids sound on the Senns. The treble 'hardness' remains as well by comparison with the Momentum. (Although the Momentum is way more expensive)

So in my eyes, it remains a good buy but would prefer a little more mid presence in the tonality.
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