xDuoo MT-604 Balanced Tube

General Information


xDuoo MT-604 Balanced Tube

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Tube + Transistor Hybrid Headphone Amplifier Pre-Amplifier​

  • Tube + Transistor Hybrid Amplifier​
  • Compact Portable Headphone Amplifier​
  • Professional Capacitance​
  • XLR and 4.4mm Balanced Input/Output& Independent Volume Adjustment​
  • Built-in Mute Circuit&Sand-Blast Textured Surface​




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Fully balanced tube amp
xDuoo doesn’t do incremental improvements. They evolve by leaps and bounds. The MT-604 is a Class-A tube amp that doubles its predecessor’s tube count and channels, making for a fully balanced tube amp experience.

Tube + transistor
Jump back in time with the supple sounds of tube amplification. Known for its soft, sweet mids and laid-back highs, the 6J1 tubes of the MT-604 will thaw the coldest of expectations with their warm reproduction of vocalists and stringed instruments.

A common complaint about tube amplifiers is their lack of high frequency response and resolving power. To overcome this, xDuoo added a rear transistor circuit capable of large dynamics, high speed, and resolving power. Tubes + transistor: the best of both worlds.

Class-A amplifier
The MT-604 is a class-A amplifier. Using simple circuits that draw the same amount of current and consume the same amount of energy whether receiving a signal or not, this is the most straightforward of amplifier types. It isn’t subject to electromagnetic interference caused by digital components, so its total harmonic distortion and signal-to-noise ratio are exceptionally low.

53% more power than the MT-602
The MT-604 outputs up to 2000mW (32Ω) of power. That’s 53% more power than the MT-602--enough to drive even the HiFiMAN HE-4.

XLR and 4.4 balanced input/output
The MT-604 is a fully balanced amplifier. Plug in any source into its XLR or 4.4mm balanced inputs, and enjoy rich, unhampered sound from its XLR or 4.4mm balanced outs.

Independent left/right volume adjustment
Sound bias--the phenomenon of one driver being louder than the other--is a thing of the past with the MT-604. Independent left and right volume adjustments let you control each channel separately, ensuring perfectly equal volume across both headphone earcups.

Built-in mute circuit
Anyone who’s ever plugged in their headphones before turning on their amplifier knows that many amplifiers make an ear-splitting “pop!” noise when turned on. Thanks to a built-in mute circuit, the MT-604 prevents this from happening, saving your ears and your patience.

Interference-blocking chassis with sand-blasted texture
The aluminum alloy chassis is a rugged defense against bumps, bruises, and electronic interference. The sand-blasted gray shell beautifully complements the striking red dials and atomic-era aesthetic of the tubes.

Tubes will roll
Adventurous audiophiles will love swapping out the stock tubes for other tubes. Every model of tube has a different sound signature, enhancing or reducing warmth, detail, and soundstage. It’s a fun way to play with the sound signature of a single amp, often for less than $30 a pop. Just be sure to find a reputable dealer of tubes before buying.

Product highlights
Tubes + transistor hybrid
Fully balanced amp
Four 6J1 tubes
Class-A amplifier
53% more power than MT-602
XLR and 4.4mm balanced outputs
Independent left/right volume adjustment
Built-in mute circuit
Interference-blocking chassis
Switchable tubes

Specs
Power supply: DC12V/2A
Output power: 2000mW @32Ω 1kHz
Inputs: XLR
Outputs: XLR, 4.4mm balanced
Dynamic range: 85dBA @32Ω
Frequency response: 10Hz - 60,000Hz (±0.5dB)
Suitable headphone impedance: 16Ω - 600Ω
Gain: +15dB
Size: 6.6” x 3.9” x 2.3” (17 x 10 x 6cm)
Weight: 1.2lbs (0.55kg)
S/N: 115dB
THD+N: ≤0.01% (@32Ω, 1kHz)

Available From USA Distributor APOS at $169

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corgifall

1000+ Head-Fier
Fake-ish tube glow, real tube vibes.
Pros: Hint of tube sound. Still decently resolving. Great looks.
Cons: Balanced only. Not quite a full on tube amp.
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I do love me some tube amps! It’s been a few years since I’ve had a tube amp but the one I had was handmade by my father when I was a little kid and I had that for a long time till it got lost in a move a while back. I haven’t had the chance to really sit down to hunt for a tube amp. I’ve always liked xDuoo’s tube amp designs and I was quite interested in their TA-26 as it used the same big and little tube that my old tube amp used. I will have that on the way for review but I was asked if I wanted to check out the balanced MT-604 tube amp first and since I thought a fully balanced tube amp seemed interesting I said yes. The xDuoo is an entry level tube amp coming in at $169 and uses four 6J1 tubes in a “hybrid” tube/solid state design.

Thanks to Apos Audio for hooking me up with a loaner unit to review. While I always appreciate stuff being sent in to test and review, It never affects the rating of my review.

The xDuoo MT-604 can be picked up from Apos Audio below

https://apos.audio/products/xduoo-mt604-balanced-tube-headphone-amplifier

Gear used​

S.M.S.L. SU/SH-6, Moondrop Aria, Moondrop Variations, Sennheiser HD560S.

Looks and Feel​

The MT-604 is fairly weighty for a smaller desktop device. It’s shorter and wider with a nice matte gray finish. The tube amp is well ventilated with holes throughout the housing and tubes never get so hot that they will burn one's fingers or arm if they accidentally touch the device when left on for a long time. The bright red metallic volume knobs give a modern look and it reminds me of Big Boss’s arm from the Metal Gear Solid 5 game. I like the looks of the 604 tube amp overall.
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Accessories and unboxing​

The box is a simple affair but inside it's well padded since the tube amp was at least shipped to me with the tubes pre installed with fitted foam to keep the tubes in place. Inside we get a basic user manual and the external power brick. For desktop amps this is perfectly fine in terms of included accessories. I would maybe like to see a super cheap set of 3 pin XLR cables though most people will probably be fine buying an external set of braided cables elsewhere.

Power switch and volume knobs​

Power switch is on the back. I never liked power switches on the back and I especially don’t like it on a tube amp either. The tubes never get toasty so I’m not as worried about getting burnt turning this unit off. The left and right volume knobs are a thing that I don’t really like. I have experienced channel imbalance from bad sets of tubes before so this is actually a kinda nice feature but I would really like a way to “lock” both volume pots so I don’t have to fiddle around with them individually. Luckily I just set them to a proper channel balance and use my desktop amp to adjust overall volume.

Sound(overall)​

These final impressions were done off the MT-604 attached to the SMSL SP400 amp via XLR. This will be what the MT-604 sounded like with all the headphones I used. Unfortunately I’m just getting back into tubes so I wasn’t able to tube roll. Things like headphone pairings, tube rolling and other source gear will produce different results and impressions vs what my ears hear on my specific gear.

Well minus the hybrid design and fake tube glow I’ll talk about later, this very much has a tubey sound. It still comes through really clear overall but there is a wider sound and the upper bass to lower mid have a boost that gives it that airy and lush sound that I remember from my older tube amp. I find the subbass is a little on the neutral side so thumps come through well when called for but the rumbles feel held back. The mid bass is where the tubes start to kick in and there is definitely air between there to about the middle of the midrange that sounds airy but sweet. Without using all the “Audiophile” terms, it is good and very different when I use it next to the cheaper sub $200 SMSL solid state stack. The treble is actually decently clear. I could tell this is where the solid state amp side started to show. The treble isn’t very crisp and even though this was fed from my main desktop stack, It did alright. Not bad for a hybrid tube amp at all.

Imaging/Soundstage​

There is a sense of space in the stage and while I normally rely on headphones for soundstage and imaging, I think this a decent exception since the tubes do add a little to the sound. The depth and width were still about average compared to similarly priced amps but it just had those tube vibes that made it feel special. Imaging was fine as I expect from all amps.

Input and output​

We get XLR inputs on the back and a 4.4mm pentaconn balanced input on the front right side. We have a 4.4mm balanced headphone jack on the front left side and a 4 pin XLR on front in the middle.
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Personal grips with the xDuoo MT-604​

So the tubes they include don’t really produce any “tube glow” naturally and their solution is to simply add orange LEDs at the base of the vacuum tube sockets to give off a “tube glow”. I think it’s cheap looking BUT I was actually convinced it was a real tube glow at first since I turned it on without looking and walked away to let it “warm up”. It wasn’t until I turned it off that I noticed the tube glow instantly disappeared and I was like “WHAT?”. The LEDs turn on at the same time as the unit so while I would prefer no fake glow, my roommate and fiance thought it was pretty looking and they had zero idea what was going on. I mentioned above my gripe with the separate left and right volume knobs and while it is fine for mismatched tubes, I would prefer a way to sync those knobs if possible. I also would have liked to see a pre out on the back. Even if it was RCA outs. For the price I’ll let the pre outs slide however.
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Balanced power output​

The MT-604 will output 2 watts into a 32 ohm load which is pretty good. There isn’t much effort put into the sensitivity of the overall volume so be cautious when using IEMs and easier to drive headphones. This thing will show channel imbalance like most potentiometer pots in the first 30 percent so I recommend starting low and then adjust via the output source(if possible) to avoid the initial channel imbalance and to not blow your eardrums out.

IEM pairing opinions​


Moondrop Aria​

The Aria is amazing for its price and what better way to test the 604 than hooking up a wonderful single DD IEM to it. Well, except there's no single ended option on the MT-604 so I did have to use an aftermarket 4.4mm cable to pair them up. The Aria did have a slightly more lush sound but I felt the upper mids and treble weren’t affected nearly as much. The bass does get a little extra thump and the mids do have a little extra sweetness but the treble is still super energetic. This was one of the more solid state sounding combos when it came to headphones I tried with the MT-604. A good pairing for sure but it didn’t have as much of a noticeable tube sound to my ears. The soundstage was slightly wider and deeper however.
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Moondrop Variations​

I did use my expensive(to me) Effect Audio Axiom for testing but I figured most people would probably be using something around or under $500 with the MT-604. The Variations are a warmer IEM in the lows and mids when used on my normal gear. The MT-604 definitely boosts those areas a bit but it's tasteful to my ears. Lows and mids get that hint of tube sound and the treble was a little more relaxed overall. It definitely has a thicker sound with a sweet overall experience. I don’t think anyone who wants a more neutral experience will like this pairing but it still makes for a super smooth combo.
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Over ear pairings​


Sennheiser HD560S​

The MT-604 pairs pretty well with the HD560S. I was expecting a super smooth and warm tube experience but I got about halfway to what I was expecting off the MT-604. This was a right in the middle experience from a solid state amp to a full on tube amp with good tubes. I got a warmer overall sound but it was somewhat selective throughout the FR when I was A/B testing between amps. On the MT-604 I got a warm and slightly stronger bass which didn’t result in any better subbass but it did provide a little extra thickness which I did like. The mids are about the same as a solid state amp but the big difference was the treble brightness. Everything came through with about the same detail but a lot of the brightness is toned down just enough that I found the HD560S much more enjoyable overall. I think this is a good pairing and I would have liked to have experienced the HD600 series headphones on this amp with some rolled tubes thrown in.
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Overall thoughts​

Just like part of my title says, I get tube vibes from the MT-604. While it’s not a traditional looking tube amp, it still gives a different flavor of sound vs a standard solid state amp. I wish I could have tube rolled to see how it handled different upgraded tubes but I was perfectly fine with the performance for $169. I would say give this a shot if you’re interested in feeding balanced headphones a taste of tube goodness. I look forward to checking out some of xDuoo’s other headphone amps soon. Thanks for reading!
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536129

Head-Fier
Powerful budget tube amp
Pros: 2watts clean power!
Price of $169
Tube rolling
Great build and looks
Cons: Stock tubes meh
No rca input
Dual vol control ( personally I like this )
xDuoo MT-604

Sub 200$
Fully balanced tube amplifier
Seperate left and right volume control ( I love this for channel matching )
2 watts power output
Can change sound signature with different tubes
Single XLR output in center
4.4 pentaconn output on left
4.4 pentaconn input on front panel
No single ended output
4 6J1 Tubes ( 2 per left 2 per right channel )

Cons
ONLY BALANCED INPUT ( not a con for me )
No pre amp out
No rca input
Seperate left and right volume control ( depends on your POV )
Stock tubes aren’t very good

Class a amp
Built in mute , no pop sound
Neutral sound signature but bass is full and good extension on low and top end

Specs
• Power supply: DC12V/2A
• Output power: 2000mW @32Ω 1kHz
• Inputs: XLR
• Outputs: XLR, 4.4mm balanced
• Dynamic range: 85dBA @32Ω
• Frequency response: 10Hz - 60,000Hz (±0.5dB)
• Suitable headphone impedance: 16Ω - 600Ω
• Gain: +15dB
• Size: 6.6” x 3.9” x 2.3” (17 x 10 x 6cm)
• Weight: 1.2lbs (0.55kg)
• S/N: 115dB
• THD+N: ≤0.01% (@32Ω, 1kHz)


xDuoo MT-604 Review

Wiljen

Headphoneus Supremus
Xduoo MT-604, Balanced on a budget
Pros: well built, good power, fully differential
Cons: balanced only, no pre-amp function, no switching between front and rear inputs, no RCA inputs.
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disclaimer: The MT-604 was provided for the purpose of this review and the tube rolling article by Xduoo Audio. I have no financial interest in Xduoo or any of its distributors, nor did I receive any compensation beyond the product itself for this review. If you have an interest in purchasing any of the Xduoo amplifiers I have recently written about, I suggest you check out Xduoo’s website directly as they now offer direct sales. You can also follow them on Facebook for more information.

Unboxing / Packaging:

The packaging of the MT-604 is the same style as the 601 and 602 packages with a very western retail look to the box. The front has the line drawing of the amp while the reverse has company info and some suggested uses but does not have even basic specs. Lifting the top of the box reveals the manual and then a couple of blocks of heavy foam. The top most block serves to protect the pre-installed tubes, while the lower block protects the 604 itself. Beneath the unit and foam protection is a box containing the power supply and power supply cable. Audio cables are not provided so you will need either a 4.4mm pentaconn interconnect cable or a pair of XLR inputs as the 604 does not have RCA inputs.





Build/Fit:

The case is gray anodized aluminum with removable end plates and rear plate in very much the same style as the 601 and 602. To remove the internals for cleaning or repair, only the rear plate needs to be removed as the internals no not attach to either side plate. The top of the case has two X logos with a pair of tubes centered in each and venting to the front and rear of the X. Additional venting is provided by the side plates that also sport the logo pattern. The unit has four 6J1 tubes that protrude roughly ½ an inch. above the top surface.

Inputs are a 4.4mm pentaconn jack on the right front and a pair of XLR jacks on the rear. Outputs are a single XLR on the center front and a 4.4mm pentaconn to the left of it. Unlike the 602, no pre-amp outputs are provided and the 604 has no single ended input or output options.

This is purely an amplifier so no usb, optical, or coax connectors are needed and the only other features not covered yet are a large red volume knob centered immediately in front of the tubes and a 12V DC input on the rear of the unit. Overall the unit stands a little over 1.5 inches tall (excluding the tube) , about 7 inches long and a little over 3 inches deep. The unit weighs slightly over a lbs as well so is quite compact.

This is where I got the first surprise, no two of the tubes were the same height when I unboxed the amp. I figured the amp had just been jostled in transit and needed the tubes reseated but to my surprise all four tubes were fully seated in the sockets and are different heights. I checked the dates on the tubes and all have the same date code so I can only guess either the codes are fake and applied sometime after the fact or the QC was non-existent that day at the factory.





Internals:

The MT-604 uses four 6Ak5 tubes as the pre-amp followed by eight D882M transistors that are used as a buffer stage. The D882M transistors are mounted to the bottom of the board and use the case as the heatsink rather than needing a dedicated sink like the 601 uses. Those interested in the D882M can find the datasheet here. Capacitors are either Elna Silmic or RubyCon branded throughout. The 604 also lists a built in mute circuit in the headphone output to prevent pops at power on. The 604 lists gain as +15dB exactly the same as the 602, but output power is much larger at 2000mW into a 32Ω load compared to the 1300mW of the 602. SNR is listed as 115dB with a THD+N of <.01 at 1kHz with a 32Ω load. The 604 lists as suitable for use with headphones between 16 and 600Ω impedance and indeed was capable of powering just about anything thrown at it. The 6AK5 family is quite large and provides lots of options for tube rolling as it has been in production worldwide since the 1940s nearly continuously. For more on that, see Tube Rolling the MT-604.




Sound:

The MT-604 is a hybrid amp so can have some warmth added by tubes but retains some of the same character regardless based on its output stage. If you’d rather avoid such coloration the Xa-10 or XD-05 balanced provide all solid-state options but both are considerably more costly than the 604. The 6J1 tube used offers a fairly wide range of options and the amount of warmth, extension, and detail can be impacted considerably. This family also includes tubes labeled 5654, 6J1 (Chinese and Russian designation), CV4010 (British), EF95 (Euro), 403a/b (Western Electric) as well as 6AK5W and 5654W designations. I used the Khadas Tone2Pro with a pair of balanced RCA to XLR cables to feed the MT-604, and worked my through no less than 12 different sets of tubes. Tube rolling the MT-604 proved a more complicated exercise as with each new tube, the volume had to be re-tested and matched before listening. While the MT-604 does have some tube characteristics, it is ultimately a fairly clean and detailed amp without the syrupy flavor of some tubes. I think this is due in part to the use of the 5654 tube which has less warmth than some other tubes and partially to the output buffer stage design. The end result is a detailed signature with a hint of warmth depending on the tube used. Overall, I found the 604 to have good output power as it was able to run the HD800 without issue. The He6 was not quite driven to full capability and that duty is better handed off to the Ta-30. For more on the sound with various tubes, see my tube rolling article.

Thoughts / Conclusion:

The MT series are all budget models that make trade offs in order to get the desired result. The 601 is a pre-amp with an earphone output and has very limited output power for using full sized headphones. The 602 has more power but may be a bit over-powered for sensitive in-ears and best reserved for full sized headphones, and the 604 has no pre-amp outputs, no rca inputs, has separate volume controls per channel and is balanced only. I include the separate volume controls among the cost savings here as bringing the two independent signals into a single volume pot would require more hardware to accomplish and no doubt increase costs. All models in the MT line share the issue of lacking input switching so be careful not to have multiple sources connected. Effectively, Xduoo has built a series of single purpose budget amps and with price tags of all three being sub $200 USD and the 601 and 602 hovering right around the $100 USD mark, we should expect no different. The 604 offers a fully balanced tube amplifier with independent volume controls that allow the end user the ability to offset small channel imbalances elsewhere in the chain for a cost of less than half of the next least expensive balanced tube amp I was able to find on the market. It has very usable power with nearly 2 watts of output, and the signature can be tweaked with readily available and inexpensive tubes. Will it displace the Eddie Current Balancing Act in totl setups? No, but for the asking price you can buy 15 of the 604s and still have less than the cost of a used model. That gives newcomers to tubes a very cost effective way to stick a toe in the water and see what this tube stuff is all about. Kudos to Xduoo for making tube audio more affordable and accessible. Everyone should own a good tube headphone amp and the MT-604 makes a good place to start.

Xduoo MT-604

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borkenarrou
Guys a dumb question, are the 1st and 2nd tubes from left for left channel and 3rd and 4th from left are for right channel?
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El nai del vent
volume control is by R-L channels. The sound improves by changing the tubes, I used it with GE Jan 5654w.

Comments

Condocondor

500+ Head-Fier
Ordered my MT-604 today along with the following upgrades:

1. Set of (4) UPGRADED and matched 7-pin, GE Jan 5654W Tubes from Riverstone Audio ($45.78)

2. Upgraded iFi Audio 12V/2.5A Power-X Power Supply. ($116.63) from Amazon

3. World's Best Cables set of 1ft. Mogami XLR Cables to run from my Topping D30Pro DAC. ($30.98) from Amazon

I'm hoping to give this little unit every opportunity to shine. My D30Pro has a pre-amp built in so I can set my amp volume at 50% and use the DAC's remote to control volume. This is my first foray into tubes and balanced anything. I will run my Edition XX out the MT-604 and use my Asgard 3 to run all my single ended headphones. We'll see how the Asgard 3 stacks up?
 

Condocondor

500+ Head-Fier
Sure, or the Topping D30 Pro - $399
S.M.S.L M200 - $249 - $299
iFi Zen Dac - $130, or the V2 that just released - $160, this setup would require 4.4mm to dual XLR, $20
Soncoz LA-QXD1 $199
Soncoz SGD1 - $459
Khadas Tone2 Pro - $199, this would require a special cable because they developed a proprietary connection somewhat out of necessity due to how impossibly thin the unit is. It's the Khadas Balance-RCA to XLR Adapter & Cable $49 for the 8in length or $79 for 3ft. (for me, 3 ft. of interconnect would piss me off all the time for how much it would get in the way.)
D30 Pro for sure! Its what I'm using.
 

CADCAM

Headphoneus Supremus
I've settled on the 1969 Sylvania JAN 5654, I tried several tubes in my 602 but these sound the best IMHO. I am using an upgraded PS also. SMSL SU-8 DAC which has a volume control!
 
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fire23wong

New Head-Fier
Got mine yesterday, currently using it along with Topping D90 + A90 (pre amp mode) + ADX5000, MT-604's volume set at 12 o'clock.
Compared to A90 (HPA mode), the overall sound stage is a bit smaller but the general instrument seperation and positioning maintained well. Vocal is closer (but not ear licking close) and warmer (sweeter maybe?). Overall all experience is great, less stressful to listen to over long sessions.

I think MT-604 is also suitable for those portable users looking to try headphones but dont want to invest too much on a stationay set of gear. I have tried to use it with SP1000 and DX300 as source and both worked well using the 4.4mm input of the MT-604. At this price MT-604 is really a no brainer as long as you have a balanced soruce.
 

ClicketEKlack

100+ Head-Fier
Got mine yesterday, currently using it along with Topping D90 + A90 (pre amp mode) + ADX5000, MT-604's volume set at 12 o'clock.
Compared to A90 (HPA mode), the overall sound stage is a bit smaller but the general instrument seperation and positioning maintained well. Vocal is closer (but not ear licking close) and warmer (sweeter maybe?). Overall all experience is great, less stressful to listen to over long sessions.

I think MT-604 is also suitable for those portable users looking to try headphones but dont want to invest too much on a stationay set of gear. I have tried to use it with SP1000 and DX300 as source and both worked well using the 4.4mm input of the MT-604. At this price MT-604 is really a no brainer as long as you have a balanced soruce.
How are you using your Topping Stack with the MT-604, as the D90 has only one set of balanced outs and the MT-604 only one set of balanced inputs. Are you going D90 => RCA => A90 (Pre) => XLR => MT-604?
 

ClicketEKlack

100+ Head-Fier
D90 => XLR => A90 (Pre) => XLR => MT-604, I set the volume of Mt-604 at 12 o'clock and then use the A90 as main volume control

Just set up the same system -- it sounds amazing!! I forgot about the A90's pre-amp capability. It allows me to set the D90 to DAC only. And love having a single volume dial. Think I may be all set with gear for a long while.
 
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catom

100+ Head-Fier
Can it be used as a pre amp?
Not sure, but you can get a cheaper tube preamp. I just picked one up for about $70. It's not balanced, but the DAC and amp I have is. xDuoo does seem to make a tube preamp as well, but it's pricey.

This guy on YouTube gave me the idea to look for tube preamps on their own (not sure your setup needs/goals, but they do exist standalone):
 
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LowBeat91

100+ Head-Fier
Not sure, but you can get a cheaper tube preamp. I just picked one up for about $70. It's not balanced, but the DAC and amp I have is. xDuoo does seem to make a tube preamp as well, but it's pricey.

This guy on YouTube gave me the idea to look for tube preamps on their own (not sure your setup needs/goals, but they do exist standalone):

Could you tell me which one you use? if im using a not balanced pre tube amp with an balanced setup (dac + amp) does the headphone run balanced in combination with a not balanced tube pre amp
 

catom

100+ Head-Fier
Could you tell me which one you use? if im using a not balanced pre tube amp with an balanced setup (dac + amp) does the headphone run balanced in combination with a not balanced tube pre amp
I got the Fosi Audio BOX X4. It has an MM input but it was terrible with the DAC (maybe that's a known thing? just not to me maybe, was this the wrong preamp to get for this purpose?) so instead of the RCA I used the line in it had and that's fine. I had an RCA -> 3.5mm cable sitting around fortunately. I thought the thing was broken at first (and maybe it is partially).

Edit: I got some knowledge :) It's because the MM input is phono which is a different voltage from line which is what the DAC outputs. So while the RCA connectors are the same, the voltage is different. Perfectly explains the static like noise. The RCA -> 3.5mm works just fine here because the 3.5mm AUX input on the Fosi is line level. On the bright side (and part of why I got the preamp), if I ever get a turntable I can use it for that.

It's not bad. No it's not a fully balanced set up now, but the DAC (Schiit Modius) and the amp (Monolith 887) are both balanced and I have no ground loop/noise. The reason I run a balanced set up is because something in my wiring somewhere creates noise. The balanced setup completely eliminates the noise. It has not come back with this s/e preamp in the middle.

Just like the video, I can now switch the input on the Monolith 887. This makes it pretty convenient to switch based on my mood, the headphones, or the music. Previously I had to swtich the XLR cables between the two amps. While that sounds silly, it became annoying to do all the time. A single button to switch? Much better.

Not bad to play around with for the price and neither would be the xDuoo MT-604. If you are looking for a setup with headphones and a tube amp and you don't already have an amp, then I'd give the xDuoo MT-604 a try. If you did have an amp and were looking for a preamp to put into the chain, then I think you won't find a use there with the xDuoo. I have a few inexpensive tube amps including one balanced - the Loxjie P20, if you were looking for another inexpensive balanced hybrid tube amp.

It doesn't have a ton of power though. This xDuoo would have more power.

The Monolith has stupid power (I actually have to attenuate it for some headphones), but it's also super clean. Since I already had this amp, adding a tube preamp to give me that push button convenience made sense (just like the guy is talking about in that video).

Otherwise and maybe in the future, I'd play around with this xDuoo if you needed more power than what the Loxjie P20 has. I would also recommend the Loxjie P20 as well but there's a huge caveat. You will likely need to replace the power supply it comes with. It's terrible, introduces noise and there was question about it being powerful enough. I forget now which one I got, but was suggested from someone on head-fi forum or on Amazon reviews/questions on the product page itself. This actually makes the Loxjie P20 not much cheaper than the xDuoo MT-604.

The two knob thing is weird with the xDuoo as well, but it's a very intriguing amp. I still have it on my list. Zeos seems to love the thing (like more than his usual excitement), but he also loved the Loxjie P20. I can't imagine one blows the other out of the water nor would a cheap tube preamp hooked up to another amp (or just used by itself with many headphones).

The other thing about the xDuoo is you are going to need more tubes. So tube rolling gets a little more expensive.
 
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KaOs492

100+ Head-Fier
Finally got around to some 403b western electric tubes, and using the ifi I power x, it's pretty epic with the clear mgs 🤙
 

aurallychallenged

New Head-Fier
yes but aux out means no tube sound coming out the back right? its just rca passthrough not pre amp. does anyone know if the 604 can be used as a pre amp? cheap audio man on youtube says he uses it as a tube pre amp to add tube sound through the 4.4 output. is that possible? maybe if the volume is low enough the voltage will be low enough to avoid distortion or damage of the other device.
 

aurallychallenged

New Head-Fier
yes but aux out means no tube sound coming out the back right? its just rca passthrough not pre amp. does anyone know if the 604 can be used as a pre amp? cheap audio man on youtube says he uses it as a tube pre amp to add tube sound through the 4.4 output. is that possible? maybe if the volume is low enough the voltage will be low enough to avoid distortion or damage of the other device.
Hi After watching the Cheap Audiomans YouTube video I bought the MT604 (Mullard tubes) primarily for my HiFiMan HE400SEs but bit the bullet and bought a 4.4mm pentagon to dual 3 pin XLR cable. Running from the 4.4 headphone out into my Audiophonics class D Hypex amp and it sounds great. Not quite the cleanliness and attack of my SMSL SP400 headphone amp's pre-out but very musical and sweet sounding. I have poor hearing in my right ear and the 2 volume controls work just great with headphones and through speakers controling the volume from my balanced DACs.
 
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