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kurochin
kurochin
Interesting read. Can't agree or disagree, since I've not actually tried the LCD-X myself. Brave rating, considering the number of Audeze loyalists round these parts.
silversurfer616
silversurfer616
The rating is not pathetic but subjective and personal....and exactly this is what a review on HeadFi should be.Well done!
By the way,I do like the headphone but I also like people's honest opinions.
YoengJyh
YoengJyh
I like your conclusion. Good Job. I realized that too after i own HD800. I have stopped being greed though sometime i am still browsing around in Head-Fi, stalking around... Haha.
zorin
zorin
No need to be apologetic for being disappointed with the Audez'e headphones, you are not the only one. There is so much hype about them that I believe some people are a bit reluctant to offer the sober views on these Audez'e headphones. There is a human tendency to try not to be unpopular and be safe within a crowd. I was familiar with raving reviews and good rating of LCD2 V2 when I had a chance to listen to them on two occasions. I was shocked at the basic incompetence of their sound presentation. Thanks for honestly describing what you heard, for not following blindly hyped up expectations
MrTechAgent
MrTechAgent
Haha "Stop Being greedy" , well that is going to be hard anyways I will be alert when its time for Summit-Fi
MuppetFace
MuppetFace
Thanks for your review. I'm sure folks will accuse you of being overly harsh on the LCD-X because you didn't give it four or five stars, but personally I wasn't particularly taken by it either. It loses a lot of the charm other Audez'e models had for me personally, though I'd give it a 3.5 rather than a 2.5 myself. It's still a good headphone to my mind, and in particular I think it has the most pleasing overall tonal balance of the various Audez'e models, but I found after careful scrutiny that it's actually about on par w/ the LCD-2 in detail extraction and less detailed than LCD-3; it just gives the illusion of being more detailed due to its increased treble emphasis. Also I found the bass to be a less textured than the other models. The biggest issue for me however is the midrange suckout which compels me to turn the volume up louder than I normally do. There's also some upper mid hardness, so at higher volumes it gets a bit fatiguing, making me turn it back down again. The volume adjustment up and down and up and down gets annoying quickly.
 
Overall, the LCD-X strikes me as a sister headphone to the LCD-2, a different flavor that will appeal to a lot of folks more due to its more balanced tone. At its current price however it seems to be marketed as a competitor for the LCD-3, and personally I just don't see it competing. It's actually a little tricky to compare the two, because the LCD-3 has a lot of product variation, and the LCD-X actually sounds quite a lot better than the more veiled pairs of LCD-3 I've heard. If you get a "good" pair of LCD-3s however, they really outclass the LCD-X in most respects in my humble opinion.
dan.gheorghe
dan.gheorghe
I see it quite above LCD-2 in almost every aspect. As for LCD-3 vs LCD-X, I love them both but in the end I chose LCD-X. However, LCD-3 will be missed. 

"it just gives the illusion of being more detailed due to its increased treble emphasis. "

It is no illusion. LCD-3 is more detailed from the lows to the middle of the mids, but from the upper mids, I found LCD-X to be more detailed. 
 
" There's also some upper mid hardness, so at higher volumes it gets a bit fatiguing, making me turn it back down again."
 
While I don't file LCD-X tiresome it is not like LCD-3 in that department. I could have listened to lcd-3 with a headache or at 5 am. However, I don't find LCD-X that tiresome. I can easily go with 5+ hours of it with no problems.
M-13
M-13
Finally read your review. Good job man. I know you're kind of new here and I can totally tell that you tried your best. I hope you continue to do reviews and get even better as your first review was pretty good read. I've had the LCD-2 and HE-500 since 2011, both of them multiple times. On my current set up I slightly prefer the HE-500. So you're not alone. They're amazing when driven by a speaker amp fronted by a good source. I'm sort of heading toward HE-6 next given my conclusion.
Magick Man
Magick Man
3 posts, hasn't been back on since early Jan. Perhaps we can assume that this was a troll review, seems like it.
zorin
zorin
Magick Man, aren't trolls the inhabitants of a Magick kingdom ?
dan.gheorghe
dan.gheorghe
I think he got a bad unit, at least that is what he told me on a private message. 
Magick Man
Magick Man
zorin, apparently not, he doesn't appear to be an inhabitant of any community. It was just a drive-by troll review.
leesure
leesure
I doubt it. Trolls generally don't put that much effort into their trolling. I think it's just that he thought he would meet Christ when he put them on. When he didn't, he was crushed.
Magick Man
Magick Man
He has 1 review (this one) and 3 posts to the forums, all of which were in the LCD-X thread. He states they're better than the LCD-2, "15-20% better", which he liked a lot, but a 2.5 doesn't reflect that at all.

Some may ask, "Why do you care?" Well, I know when I started headphone shopping I placed a decent amount of stock in the Head-Fi ratings, especially the top 50 or so. It's unfortunate that these are now permanently weighed down by a negative score that, for all intents and purposes, seems unwarranted. Personally I don't believe anyone should be able to directly rate headphones until they've been here for a certain period of time and/or have a certain number of posts, maybe 50 or so. The ratings here could be a very valuable resource, but this type of incident throws a rather large "shadow of doubt" over the whole process, IMO.
zorin
zorin
Magick Man : "...It's unfortunate that these are now permanently weighed down by a negative score that, for all intents and purposes, seems unwarranted."
Not really, the Audez'e headphones are overrated and the review by ' SnowReborn' is a necessary, even though a small, correction. On head-fi a kind of a cult developed around the Audez'e line of headphones and more reviews like this one are needed so that the naive and ignorant folk can get a more balanced view of them and do not waste their money buying them.
Magick Man
Magick Man
Oh horse hockey. Your opinion might have some merit if the reviews before and after were all 5 stars that were devoid of content, and contained nothing more than fanboy fawning, but they aren't. There are (3) 5-stars and (2) 4-stars, with a fair bit of analysis in the mix. If you'd bothered to read and compare, you'd see that in this instance, Audeze isn't being "overrated" at all. Your snide "waste their money buying them" comment is quite telling, because these most certainly are NOT a waste, unlike 80% of the headphones that litter the Summit-Fi landscape. This is an exceptional product, IMO their first truly exceptional product, and weighing it according to your disdain for its predecessors is plain old ignorance. If I had simply pre-judged these according to my dislike of the LCD-2 and 3 I would have been the poorer for it, because the LCD-X is one of my favorite sets now. Fortunately I have more sense than that.
dan.gheorghe
dan.gheorghe
+1 Magick Man. I actually love their headphones especially LCD-X and then LCD-3 . If you wanted to say they are a little overpriced, what summit fi product isn't, or how many are?
iPaintCode
iPaintCode
I've yet to hear the LCD-X but own the LCD-XC and after listening for almost a week I miss my HE-500's, XC's can sound shouty with dips and peaks; if that makes sense. Perhaps I need to find the right amp setup but I felt the HE-500's were an extremely amazing headphone for the 599 tag they go for today. FWIW, I'm sure the X would be more in my wheelhouse than the XC but I don't see this as a troll review but one person's subjective review.
leesure
leesure
iPaintCode...the XC and the X are very different headphones...this coming from someone who has both. Deciding whether the review is valid without having heard the item on question is as bad as the review itself. As to the relative value of the HE-500, if you prefer that sound, then by all means, buy them and be happy!
commtrd
commtrd
Having owned the LCD2.2, LCD3, and now the LCD-X, I can say that the X are just perfect for my taste in musical reproduction. They have the increased detail (especially in the lower registers) along with increased airiness and neutrality [although they are still very much Audeze] with intense bass slam and beautiful clear mids and treble. I think the X are the best sounding headphones I have ever heard. To step up from here (so I have read) requires going to Stax and uber expensive amping etc. To me, these headphones are exemplary and definitely NOT A WASTE OF MONEY. In fact, for the money for the phones and proper upstream components (amp/dac) I think this is end-game status. It takes at least another ten grand worth of capital to exceed the performance of a good system based on LCD-X with a good amp and dac so my little system is great for me and most important, I am totally happy with the sound. And what else really matters?
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