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cqtek
cqtek
Once again, I would like to thank all those who have publicly supported me.

@NymPHONOmaniac, long time no talk.... We've had our ups and downs in the past too. I'm glad to be back in touch, even if it's only here.
It's true that a comparison with another DAP superior to the Z4 or, as you point out, a comparison of the Z4 vs ACMEE MF01 would have been fairer. But I have in mind a project of internal modification of the Z4, which may increase the sound quality of the Z4. If so, it might be a worthy rival for the MF02s. When the modification is done, I will write a review of the modified Z4 and compare it, again, with the MF02s.
cqtek
cqtek
Finally, I think that although my writing style may be bombastic, it is clear that I would not recommend this DAP for those looking for all-day battery life, fast and complete handling, a very informative display, low output impedance, no heat and comfort. I would recommend it to those who are looking for sound quality above all else and don't care about the other issues, as is clear from the conclusion. What for all those other things, should it have a lower score? I think this is an audio forum, isn't it?
NymPHONOmaniac
NymPHONOmaniac
@cqtek Ya, well, pandemic doesn't help ups and down...i think lot of us are quite lonely people in fact...thus the audiophile refuge. anyway, my group NBBA has pass through so much trauma that it's time to be chill and less emotionally invest in social hysteria and reviewers clans war. I was too impulsive before, now calm down even if still a weirdo to some extend.
So you got Z4 enh! Very curious about the mod...Z4 jsut can't trigger any emotion in me, i feel distant from music even if it's crisp sounding. Whats the impedance output of MF02S?
Have you try the Ziku HD X10 by the way??
cqtek
cqtek
@NymPHONOmaniac, I'm glad things are calming down. I have a respectful disposition, which tries to avoid conflict. Although I have a passionate nature, in the end I'd rather listen than write in haste. On this occasion, we fellow reviewers are united by audio and our hobby. I have little or no interest in the politics of this world. If colleagues talk to me about it, I will listen to them, but I will keep a low profile and try to avoid taking a position.
If, on the other hand, we talk about audio, it will be a pleasure. And that's where we're going.
The MF02s output impedance is:
Zout SE = 10Ω
Zout BAL = 22Ω

I have the Z4, which I have compared here with the MF02s and I also have the Ziku HD X10, which I bought to review, because you reviewed the previous model very positively. In the end, it was left in a drawer, for reasons that I'll discuss later... We'll continue later.
bjd1
bjd1
@cqtek You sparked quite the discussion here! :) I just want to reiterate my gratitude for your reviews. I always find them clear, interesting and informative, even if the devices sometimes aren't what I would choose for myself. Last year, I wrote a few short reviews on another forum; I was surprised at how long this kind of thing takes to write! So I know you put real work into this review. I hope you keep it up, even when someone decides to indulge in trash-talk.
cqtek
cqtek
@bjd1, thank you very much for your support.
A discussion, without wanting to stir up controversy, should be positive. Apart from writing reviews, I also try to answer questions. It's still a matter of respect for the readers.
On the other hand, I feel privileged as a reviewer, because it's not an obligation, it's doing something I like, in the best way I can. I learn from all the comments and some of them indicate that I need to improve... I'll take it as another challenge. For now, I'll keep writing and taking note of those comments to keep growing.
Regards.
cqtek
cqtek
@NymPHONOmaniac, I follow up on your answer.
From my trained electronic point of view, I look for a kind of rigour in DAPS: I look for a flat response and a low output impedance. Perhaps these are the most important elements for me, apart from the sound. A high impedance changes the frequency response of some connected headphones, as does a non-flat response. What I like least is a frequency response of a DAP that has a considerable loss in the low end. In the trebles I am more permissive. The MF02s has a 1.5dB roll-off at 20kHz, I don't like that either. But the Ziku has a drop of 6dB at 20Hz, that's a lot for a bass lover like me.

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cqtek
cqtek
And that's something that happens with other DAPS, like the F.Audio, of which I only still use the S1 and I don't use the XS03 or the FA3.

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ruffandruff
ruffandruff
Thanks for the review mate.
have you tried the ACMEE Magic Sound 4?
cqtek
cqtek
Yes, I received it a few days ago and I must say that it is a clear heir to the MF02S. So much so, that its frequency response is the same, as well as its output impedance. The sound has the same colour and I can affirm that it is a dongle version of the MF02S. I think that ACMEE has been inspired by many things from their DAP, to offer a sound in that line, saving the distances, of course.
P
PiR2
@cqtek thanks for the review, and your voice to MF02S limitation. The latest firmware update solve some of them, such as slow SD card scanning.
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ruffandruff
ruffandruff
thats good to know...since you praised the mf02s for its sound. I don't know how true it is but 500mw @32ohm for a dongle is crazy. Looking forward for your review of the dongle. Thanks for your impressions mate.
cqtek
cqtek
I think the power specifications are too optimistic. If the MF02s doesn't reach that value, giving, according to my RMS measurements, 190mW at 32 Ohms through the BAL output, I don't think the dongle will reach that power delivery either. The problem is never voltage, it is likely that the dongle will reach 4V on the balanced output, as other dongles do. The issue is with the current delivery, which in conventional operational circuits, hardly exceeds 90mA.
In any case, we will find out when I make the measurements.
ruffandruff
ruffandruff
I agree, I have the same doubts since dongles are made keeping mobile phones and their battery life in mind and mobiles usually top out at 100ma, especially iPhones. I think L&P w2 is the only one to pull around 120ma . Even the mf02 with battery does only well at high impedances (100ohms and above) to reach the power level through higher voltages as per your measurements.
xDuoo recently announced their Link2 Bal which apparently puts out 250ma, which is again skeptical.
Anyway I will wait for your assessment of the sound 4.
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cqtek
cqtek
Last week I also received the xDuoo Link2 BAL, so once I have taken the measurements I will know for sure. But I have a lot of work ahead of me with other reviews.
As for power, the Hidizs S9 Pro, according to my measurements, can deliver 230mW at 32 Ohms per BAL. My review of that dongle is also here or on my blog.
Another Hidizs, the DH80s, delivers 220mW at 32 Ohms per BAL. From my experience, Hidizs usually delivers what it specifies. Tempotec is also very reliable, but the E44 delivered less power than specified. The Earmen Sparrow delivers what it specifies, but is below the S9 Pro.
cqtek
cqtek
We'll see how the ACMEE Magic Sound 4 AK4493EQ and the xDuoo Link2 Bal perform, although I think their measurements will be below specification. In reality, though, the most important thing is the sound. In a quick comparison between the two, the SE output of the Magic Sound 4 AK4493EQ sounds very good, while the performance of the Link2's balanced output is better than the same output of the ACMEE. Don't take this as a reference, it was just a quick test.
ruffandruff
ruffandruff
Yes, Hidizs measures true to specs among all your reviewed dongle dacs. It is good that E44 provides some competition for the S9 Pro, in fact it betters the S9 Pro according to your review. I believe Its the first with a dual dac in its segment and seems like it paid off well. I am not sure regarding its power though, because OspreyAndy states that his unit is the most powerful dac he tested, besides the DACport HD. May its just your particular unit, or may be it's sound characteristics cause it to be perceived as powerful — I don't know. Anyway you both agree on its SQ.

Thanks for the quick impressions mate. Looking forward to your full review on both of them. I am more excited for the Link2 since its a dual dac, I guess it could have an upper hand in terms of soundstage and seperation. Not sure though, just my theory. Lets see. :relaxed:
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cqtek
cqtek
That's right, in terms of sound, the E44 is one of my favourites. Tempotec has managed to get the best out of this dual DAC on this occasion. They tried it twice, with the E35 and also with the BHD. The E35 is quite good and the BHD is inferior.
I see you have read a lot about the E44 and what Andy says about it. I even commented in his review that it wasn't that powerful by my measurements and he commented that his tests with hard to move IEMS say otherwise. It's not all numbers and there is also empirical testing with real loads, like our headphones.
In that sense, I connected my TinHifi P2s to the balanced output of the Magic Sound 4 AK4493EQ and also the xDuoo Link2 Bal and I could see that the xDuoo is more powerful, because it was able to move the demanding P2s better. I did not test with the E44.
By the way, the Link2 Bal uses the same dual DAC as the E44.
ruffandruff
ruffandruff
Yes, if you do have the E44, I'd love to see it compared to the Link2 in your review — Dual Dac Battle :smile:.
I did read a lot, infact your review and comparison with s9 pro got me interested in them and especially considering they cost less than the s9 pro.
Considering P2s low sensitivity of 90db, glad to see it performing better with Link2. Low sensitivity does require higher current so can't wait to see your measurements. I have read almost all your reviews on dongles. Your measurements are incredibly helpful. If possible, please do test out the P2 with E44 aswell. Just trying to understand whats going on with E44.....just read your comments on Andy's site.

Coming to dual dac dongles, Shanling announced UA5. Daul DAC and dual independent amps. Seems pretty interesting!!
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framgena
framgena
Hmm...
I'm sure properly modded Z4 will beat this... ridiculous something:)
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