It makes you wonder if they really spent any quality time wearing the thing during the design process.

Honestly, if the P7W had a more comfortable headband it would be the perfect set of Bluetooth headphones. I much prefer the leather padding to the fabric Apple has chosen. Fabric + skin/hair oils = gross. I wish B&W had gone wider & flatter with the headband. The wedge-like shape they used feels...

I’m glad you posted this as I’d been thinking about selling my P7W and getting the APM. I love the sound and build quality of the P7W but I hate the pressure on the top of my skull. It’s just so uncomfortable after a short period of time. I don’t like the extensive use of fabric on the APM but...

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They rarely roll out a product that hasn't been over-analyzed and over-tested over an extended period of time by a pack of tech fanatics. Compare that approach to many consumer electronics companies who just throw half-baked products at the market to see what sticks.

I'm not concerned that someone knows I am wearing Apple headphones. I just think the bare aluminum at that size looks odd. Maybe more like cheap hearing protection from Home Depot than a high-grade audio headphone. Or a white label Chinese product on Amazon sold under two dozen unintelligible...

The lack of visible branding on these is an odd choice, especially for Apple. The large expanse of bare aluminum on the cups just looks odd. A small Apple logo would help break up the space.

I refuse to consider any plastic-bodied over-ear headphone anything but low-end. Years ago I bought a pair of plastic Sony Playstation headphones that began to disintegrate almost immediately. In the end they were held together with zip ties before I tossed them in disgust. I would never drop...

Honestly I wish Apple would develop an A/V receiver, something ultra-simple, that "just works," with Apple TV built-in and a minimum of useless other features. I hate the current market of not enough (soundbar systems) and too much (almost any A/V receiver sold today).

All I want in life is my P7 Wireless sound without the skull-torturing headband, plus AirPods Pro ease-of-pairing. If the Apple cans fit the bill I am totally in (after a year or two when the price comes down). :smiley:

So my question is, based on the persistent theme around B&W headphones year after year, is why is the company so inept at designing for comfort? I imagine their field testing for ergonomics goes something like this: “So how do they feel, Steve?” “Meh, they kinda hurt my...” “Stop right there...

Yeah, I said replace the P7W headband with the PX7 headband, not the PX headband.

I just can't get into those cloth-covered cups. Dust magnets, lint magnets, skin/hair oil magnets. P7W still superior. Now, if someone would figure out how to swap the torturous P7W headband with the PX7 (which I assume is more comfortable, because how could it not be?) I would be truly satisfied.

For any PX7 owners who have also owned the P7W, how would you compare the sound of the two? I love the sound of my P7W. A satisfying amount of bass without being overpowering. If not for the lack of comfort I would absolutely love them.

Either that or a Ferengi. Definitely a case of style over function.

Shame B&O insists on sticking with the round earcups designed for the mythical round human ear.

It's bizarre that they could make a product that isn't as good in its primary purpose (sound quality) as another product they made two versions prior (and since discontinued). Maybe we could petition B&W to make a "P7 Classic" with a more robust housing, replaceable battery, and headband they...

If not for the noogie-style headband, I'd buy a half-dozen P7W and store them in an underground bunker. But seriously, that headband is just so infuriatingly bad. Looks amazing, feels like butter in the hand, makes my skull want to scream. Why can't these companies just make minor tweaks to...

Strip out the ANC, throw the P7W drivers into the PX7 enclosures for comfort, sell it as the P7W+ or something. Why can't we just have a fantastic-sounding (aka P7W) and COMFORTABLE set of wireless cans without the ANC nonsense? Why has ANC (with its inherent detriment to sound quality) suddenly...

I don’t want a noise-canceling version of my beloved P7 wireless. I just want a version of the P7 wireless with a headband that doesn’t feel like knuckles on my skull after 15 minutes. Too much to ask? :(

First, your preferred sound signature is subjective. Second, I bet you’ll find very few members of this forum or online reviewers that would agree with you that the B&O sounds better than B&W, let alone the laughable “10x better” claim. Ditto on build quality. Neither of your assertions hold...

LOL. No.

I have zero issues with the comfort of the earpads. It's the skull-torture headband device that's agonizing for me. They should have named these the B&W Nuggies.

Please do. I’d love to know if this solves the problem.

Not that I’ve found. Sometimes I wear a baseball cap while listening, which reduces the pressure caused by the headband. I can’t believe the design made it through their testing process. The band needs to be wider and flatter. Beautifully made, functionally poor.