Okay, so I'm happy with the Senns, and getting sick of the bravado and name-calling in this thread, so unsubscribing. Have fun y'all.

On android they only show up as a single device.

Lots of people talking about cancelling the Senns and getting something else. Be careful. You really should hear them first.

Some additional feedback on the Sennheisers after my first commute: 1. Pairing: I took them out of the case this morning and they didn't reconnect. I couldn't pair them - in the end I had to 'forget' them from my phone and repair. Quite annoying. Thankfully it worked on my 3rd attempt, but...

They don't. Only real wireless option for the IE80s is the PlusSound BT.

Customisation would be awesome, if only so I can use the single tap for something other than bloody assistants.

It could just be a general fit and 'ears are weird' issue. So far I've found the Senns to be massively comfortable - to the point where I almost forget they're there at all. The Jabras, on the other hand, did feel a bit achey after 2 hours' of constant use. That said, I've not worn the Senns for...

Plex has a volume boost in its app. You might also want to try Poweramp which has a "preamp" setting.

Because different apps play at different volumes. Some have a preamp setting that allows you to increase the overall volume.

What source are you using? My Senns played through Plex is painfully loud at 60%, and I think at over 80% it would literally damage my hearing. They're almost exactly twice as loud as the Jabras based on my normal listening volume level.

TBH, I wouldn't expect much. The most predictable app update release note in the iOS or android Appstore is "bug fixes and performance improvements". They probably fixed a minor bug in the phone app....

Let's move on. I took my Senns out for the first time today (I haven't left the house since I've had them...) and was pleasantly surprised at how secure the fit was, how comfortable they were (hardly felt them) and how good they sounded while out and about. The other thing I was impressed at...

No, I'm not saying that at all - I don't think you read my post. I'm merely saying that people should be careful about stating that they can hear differences, when placebo effect is a very real thing. You might think you're hearing an improvement, but unless it's double-blind, you can't be...

The point he's making is that a lot of this is audiophile nonsense, that's been prevalent for years and in many cases is utterly absurd. There's a huge amount of selection bias and placebo going on - and that drives peoples' thoughts that they can hear differences, when actually they can't...

According to the website (https://www.mavinlife.com/) it's 10 hours per charge, and the case has up to 5 charges. Still impressive.

Slightly leftfield question - has anyone registered their Sennheiser MTWs? It doesn't seem like that product is available on the Sennheiser product registration page....

Maybe the issue was that the edges of the CD hadn't been painted with a green pen. ;)

I haven't heard any hiss at all, although I've only had mine today so not a huge amount of listening. But certainly nothing noticeable. The case lid feels pretty solid and snaps shut nicely. Sounds like you have a bad set.

Senn pushed out another update to the MTW Android app today. That's two updates in the last week. Guess they're working hard!

Lots of us have them. Scroll up a few posts for my comparison with Jabra 65Ts, and back a couple of pages to see comparisons with the Havits, the MWs, and a few others. I think the general consensus is that from a sound quality perspective, they're very very good. The controls can be a bit...

Yeah, so far (limited testing) the touch controls on the Senns are super-finnicky, and trying to differentiate between one-tap and two taps is hard. I doubt I'll use the touch controls much. The transparency mode seemed to work well - less echoey and metallic than the equivalent on the Jabras...

What do you mean "Eq suggestions"? Are you meaning "what settings should I use?". Surely the answer is "whatever you like the sound of". :) TBH, I thought they sound excellent on the default/flat setting...

You need a shorter commute. ;)

With this SQ, that'll do fine for me. My commute is under 90 mins. Anything over the 3-hour mark is a bonus.

Okay, so received my Senns this morning. Haven't used them for long, but can give a comparative opinion on the soundstage etc compared to the Jabra 65Ts. TL;DR: They rock. :) So much more bass and a much more open and clear soundstage. Tighter treble, less muddy than the Jabras. The sound...