Quote: Originally Posted by Veggie_Musician ZVM distorts fact! - Man I got hung drawn and quatered on this site for saying this! Just about still alive to tell the tale! Are you ever going to step up to the plate and release this fancy famous (perhaps fake?!) vision:m firmware...

Battery replacement, the way apple or the vision:m does it really isn't a battery replacement...if you can remove the battery and replace it with another one without sending it back to the manufacturer or taking your unit apart, risking breaking it forever, I would then consider this a battery...

Quote: Originally Posted by zip22 the battery of the vision:m is not user replaceable. in addition, there is currently no information on replacing the battery through the company (unlike apple, who will replace an out of warranty battery for $65.95). there is also no reason for third...

FYI http://www.epizenter.net/e107_plugin...topic.php?7862

Couldn't resist...sorry! LIP

When exactly are you going to give it to us? LIP

Veggie: Are you going to enlighten us with the reasoning behind your previous posts on the vision:m firmware and why you took down the pictures? Lots of people have lots of questions. Thanks. LIP

Quote: Originally Posted by pawdog It always amazes me the differences in bass perception between different people. I don’t find the Vision:M lacking in bass at all. I don’t have any iPods or iAudios to compare it to. But it is the equal (to my ears) of the Karma and the quite underated...

I get no distortion with my zv:m with the bass boost on...however, it's not a huge increase in bass in my opinion...but definitely no distortion. LIP

Quote: Originally Posted by dbintoro Here is a website to prove what ILikeMusic said. http://forums.creative.com/creativel...cending&page=1 I don't have such problems...nor do many others... However, I find the player sounds better without eq. LIP

I think there is no contest overall. The ZV:m has far more features and usability overall than the ipod. However, it's a personal decision that spending 30 minutes at your local bestbuy or circuitcity can resolve for you. The ZV:m just has so many more features for a lower price.... The...

The best solution would be to keep the power turned off (lock), take it apart and blow dry it. However, since it doesn't look to easy to take apart, just try using the blow dryer through the docking cable port. Leave the player in a dry, airid room for a few days. Hopefully the water will...

Well I have owned : Creative Zen vision:m Rio Karma Ipod Nano Listened extensively to : Ipod 4G Ipod 5G So far, the best sounding player IMHO is the vision:m, followed closely by the karma. I like the Ipod 5G better than the nano although both sound close and are not far behind the...

I think the recent election just set us back quite a few years...hopefully this less than inspiring idealogue will be a faint memory soon... Regardless...regarding Bestbuy, can anyone tell me if I lost the bestbuy receipt and extended warranty, will they still honour it? They have my address...

What store? I'm ready to send my karma back to BB as it's skipping all the time with the smallest of movements now...might be an interesting option. LIP

If you mean you picked up an ipod, good for you. "twice as bulky is why you lose" makes little sense to me. You are getting a much better screen, arguably better sound (if history is anything to go by), many more features and longer battery life. These players are so small these days. My nano is...

I'm thinking this unit is looking very nice. I've got a karma and an ipod nano and one thing I can say is the UI on the ipod really blows...looking forward to replacement for my karma and I think this might be it... Hope they get it in 60gig soon. LIP

I gotta go with the "pro ibud" crowd on this one. I was expecting crap before listening to the buds on the ipod. So much so that I lined up the Senn's that came with my Karma (MX300's) as the nano is black so the black senns matched the nano better. The mx300's sound like garbage compared to...

Quote: Originally Posted by smirnoff04 I think I got mine (sr 60's) for around 80$ cdn from Hifi Centre in vancouver, so like most are saying, I too think you can find a better deal. That is a great price!

Yeah...I agree with the otheres: If they made a 30 gig to take on Apple, they would definitely move a lot of units if the price was the same as the apple. LIP

I would support the sponsers on this site like Todd as opposed to supporting local Canadian companies that are just ripping you off. I just bought a pair of Grado 80's for 70 dollars shipped to my door in perfect condition. If I were to do it again, perhaps I would have bought them from Todd...

Yeah, this is why I always buy from US shops. Even taking into consideration shipping and such, it usually always works out cheaper and I find the service better. I can't stand BBR. It's just a snobshop IMO. I don't mind businesses making money but when they are making upwards of 200% I'll...

Be careful. The brasso and other polishers are really only good for the plastic or metal backing...if you do this to your clickwheel you'll take off the menu/forward/reverse/play lettering and also probably affect the feel of it. LIP

If you kept the cover over the front and back, I would assume it to not get scratches!!?? However, I did the same and found scratches when I took that off. LIP