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  1. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Well, so far so good... A couple of days in the 902I's seem to have 'opened up'. You know what's it's like when you get new speakers and initially they sound limited and take a while to loosen up. But although I haven't done a direct test between the old 302s and the new 902I's I'll swear they...
  2. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by driftingbunnies Even if there is no tonal difference, depending how large of a jump you make, upgrading the center is recommended. Sure if you jump one line up it might not make too big of a difference. However, if you jump one more after these 902's, are you...
  3. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude The latter. But the latter will show up the center. Will you be able to go back to the smaller stereo speakers after upgrading? Nope. Trust me you'll notice something isn't quite right if you upgrade stereo speakers. Take this from someone who's...
  4. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude ^ From someone with a low end center, once you move up the line you'll do a 180. A higher end center is about sounding better, with wider frequency response, more natural, able to play louder, and sounding great whilst going loud. You'd think a...
  5. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by driftingbunnies The reasons to upgrade the center along with your fronts is so that the timbre and tones match throughout your system. If you make your fronts overpower the center, it won't make too much of a difference if you mismatch. If that was the case...
  6. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Interesting development... Managed to find someone who had the same Mordaunt Short Avant Premiere speakers (302 front/rear, 304 center, 308 woofer) as I currently do. They contacted Peter Tyson asking could they just upgrade their their front 302s to 902i's without the 304 sounding out of...
  7. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by driftingbunnies To me, they don't look aesthetic at all in those places but I guess they do to you. LOL - The ideal aesthetic position would be so you couldn't see them at all... The thing for me is they stand out as little as possible, without...
  8. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude I did not say it's k to leave them where they are now. Do not cram a new center and right speaker where they are now. I'd try them where they are now, and in other places - Just like I did (carefully) with my current setup... If they can go...
  9. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude 1) Yes 2) Yes Aha, so there some light at the end of my spend-some-money-tunnel then Of course, interesting some people have thusfar said the opposite... So if I go off, and look for some non-rear-ported bookshelf speakers, whose...
  10. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude Once you get larger speakers you cannot ignore speaker placement. I wouldn't... But the question is null and void if the opinion is adding such speakers to my amp will not improve the sound... It's a logical progression really:- 1) Will...
  11. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by warpdriver don't bother upgrading IMO. So you recon - ignoring speaker placement - if I put say MS 900s across my front, I'd not notice an improvement? OK.. Shame
  12. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude It will. Perhaps because your speakers are so bass light you're not hearing what it does to the sound. I put my center (2 x 6.5" driver and treble) like you've got yours and moved it within a couple of days. Boxy, hollow and boomy sound. It's front...
  13. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by sochee If you can't hear the difference between different placements of speakers, I'd say there's no point getting new ones. Another unquantified 'voodoo' statement... Seriously, what does that ^^^ achieve? If I move my speakers 6ft, yes I can hear...
  14. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by warpdriver Take your hands, cup them, put them around your mouth and say something. Your voice has changed and the sound is more directional. If you put speakers into a cubby, the sound changes again. Sound travels outward like a wave. (think of what happens...
  15. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude And I bet if you place it in front of the TV the bottom of the TV screen is blocked. I had that problem myself had to buy a dedicated plasma standard. £300 for that alone. No, the TV stand is in the way So, assuming it's not worth the...
  16. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    LOL! The cabinate space for the center speaker is 161mm (high)... The 905 is 165mm... Grrr...
  17. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude It's hard to explain - in theory your center should be fine as it may closely match new MS speakers, but in practice it won't, I've had that experience - and mates into home theatre too, with using higher quality mains with lower quality center...
  18. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by driftingbunnies All the receivers I mentioned are $1k and up. That just shows you how much you need to invest if you want something good for HT and something decent for music all in one box. While you might be ignoring iriverdude, he makes a good point. I...
  19. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude To match the drivers, to keep left to right panning even in tone, and hard to explain but center just won't cope, I had largest floorstanders from a range with the matching center (from the same range) stupidly the speaker maker did not make a...
  20. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by iriverdude He's looking at higher quality stereo speakers. New ones may provide better quality but that means buying a new center speaker too, and won't get the best out of them until he changes the av amplifier. That intrigues me... If I get superior...
  21. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by driftingbunnies So basically you want an all in one home theater in a box? I'm sure there are plenty of those. In effect yes... Before getting my current system, I looked at the all in one surround sound systems (true threater in a box), but in the end...
  22. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by driftingbunnies If you want surround, then how is that a simple/less complicated/less cluttered life? You also don't want multiple speakers. From what I remember, surround sound requires multiple speakers. You are contradicting yourself left and right. Until...
  23. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by driftingbunnies Something quick and simple would be to spend about 250 on a pair of wharfedales and look for a vintage receiver or maybe a stereo HK receiver. I personally would look around the classified sections around you to see what people are selling...
  24. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by driftingbunnies the thing about this hobby is that people can find joy in either buying the best there is or buying the best they can afford. You can find a better system compared to yours for about 300-400. It might take a bit of searching but it will be...
  25. NeilF

    Upgrading my front Mordaunt Short 302s... Wasting my time?

    Quote: Originally Posted by Alai Are Mordaunt a good brand? I've never heard of them... Avant 902i / Avant 900i / Reviews / Mordaunt Short
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