Quote: yeh this is the end of this post , im going to try them again and go with what my heart and ears tellin me  best wishes 

Quote: the sound of the beats was great , i think you didnt tried them yet , im talking about the new ones "pro" not the studio , and also the hd sound good but  you cant feel the vocalist  as you do with the beats ,  maybe im wrong but that what i noticed in the 2 minute experiment...

Quote: thanx , are they expensive ? the cable and the cushions ? 

hmm they both sound awsome in the shop , the sennhiser sound weird to me not like what i used to and the beats sound  like the singer is near my ear , and those are 400$ so i said it would be better if i asked you here first  if the sennhiser is better in sound quality what about the build...

hi  found two headphones in the local shop today , first one was dr dre pro cost 400 dollar  and other was sennhiser hd650 cost 390dollar , because they are the same range , which one is better?