Quote: Are these two going to be better than my DT770's were? they're like £70-£90 over here so it seems unlikely. Are they quite engaging? (obviously for metal that's the main aspect). I don't think i'd get on well with the grado's, i like the headphones to fit fully over my ear and to...

I'm looking at replacing my DT770's (or ideally finding somewhere to replace the jack) for under £200. I listen to rock pretty much exclusively and i've been told that a closed back design is better for my taste. I don't have an amp at the moment so i'll mainly be using them with my ipod around...