Yes I agree. b/w are average.

No doubt. Classic rock = planar Jazz = Clears

Anyone toggle back and forth with a planar headphone? Last night I dug up my old hifiman he 400. The overall warmth was a lot of fun. Makes me wonder if the crystal clear headphones are a little over rated.

True at times the subwoofer amp buzz in the air at live concerts is missed within headphones

Yes , I agree somewhat. Clears great but the overal fun warmth sound is a little thin. I would love to try the hex v2 as I’m a big hifiman fan.

People that spend large sums of cash on headphone equipment are always chasing the “ receiver amp floor speaker quality sound”. Unfortunately this level of sound is not achievable with a speaker 1” away from the ear.

That’s going to take some work. These things are quite amazing.

Put the Clears down for a couple days, been listening to my receiver and floor speakers. Headphones are great but if you really want great sound. Floor speakers it up!

You’ll know. Smaller sound stage brings the instrument together. The instruments will be less separated.

It’s all about the bass I believe for many it will boil down to.. does it have more bass at the sacrifice of the large sound stage.

Great question !

Thx I’m interested. And release date is summer of 2018 ?

Sorry if this is a repeat. Do we know if the 820 will pump up the bass compared to the 800S. I enjoyed my 800S but with certain genres. The bass was underwhelming for my taiste.

Some claim you get more bass single ended with the violectric.

Ok thx if Senn can add bass to the 800S we might have a new king