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Jun 9, 2017 at 5:33 PM Post #646 of 3,711
hi, Drohun.

I'm measuring 750ms (max) latency (410ms min), using default configuration in ASIO4ALL (latency compensation: 32 samples), and RMAA to measure. The signal is clean, not like the USB DAC of my DX90 (very noisy). I can't compare to DX50, because I don't own it.

Stock Zishan uses output coupling caps, and they are not big, so you can experience some sub-bass roll-off if your phones are under 16 ohms (-1.5dB at 30Hz @ 16 ohms, not much anyway). But all the phones you have mentioned are above 50 ohms, so you won't notice any sub-bass roll-off. I think that DX50 also uses similar output coupling caps (DX90 doesn't).
Output impedance of DX50 phones output is 2.5 ohms @ 1KHz, while Zishan is under 1 ohm (0.22 ohms @ 1KHz) like DX90.
So Zishan will work better (less tonal alteration) than DX50 when using balanced armature phones, if you ever plan to use them.

The software is basic, but has got main features and it is very responsive. You can select five different DAC modes, and you can use parametric EQ files (rockbox format).
I use rockbox in my DX90, so the user interface is far more complete. Compared to stock firmware, I prefer the Zishan one (mostly because of its ability to use my rockbox parametric eq files). But iBasso provides firmware updates and it's a big brand, while you have to download Zishan firmware updates from a site in Chinese, and we don't know about its continuity.
The ability of replacing the batteries with "standard" replaceable batteries easily, is a very good advantage of DX50/DX90.
Like you say, you can roll low pass filter op-amp easily in Zishan, to get slight sound differences. I've tried stock LME49720NA and Muses similar to 8820, and enjoy them both.
The higher power of Zishan (3.7Vrms vs 2.4Vrms of DX50, @ >64 ohms), allows you to feed harder to drive phones, if you plan to use them.

So both have their advantages, and that's why I use Zishan as USB DAC and when using harder phones, and DX90 as portable.

A quick question. I noticed in one of the screenshots that the lowest frequency band for Eq is 60Hz. When you use rockbox parametric eq files, will the device accept bands lower than 60?
Thanks in advance.
 
Jun 9, 2017 at 7:58 PM Post #647 of 3,711
A quick question. I noticed in one of the screenshots that the lowest frequency band for Eq is 60Hz. When you use rockbox parametric eq files, will the device accept bands lower than 60?
Thanks in advance.

Yes. You can set a low shelf filter, up to 8 peak filters, and a high shelf filter. You can select the frequency peak from 20Hz to 24kHz, and the Q, for each filter.
 
Jun 10, 2017 at 9:07 AM Post #649 of 3,711
I guess the firmware of that version should be a bit different, because it uses digital volume instead of analog.
Let's hope it still accepts rockbox's parametric eq files. Remember you'll have to use rockbox eq editor from another source, or a text editor to create the eq files.
 
Jun 10, 2017 at 2:20 PM Post #650 of 3,711
I guess the firmware of that version should be a bit different, because it uses digital volume instead of analog.
Let's hope it still accepts rockbox's parametric eq files. Remember you'll have to use rockbox eq editor from another source, or a text editor to create the eq files.

You are right. The firmware should be different. Another thing I noticed is that it uses AK4490 DAC instead of AK4495 which is in the Zishan DSD with volume knob. Probably because of that and no volume knob, it's slightly cheaper. Thanks for the rockbox tip. I have never done it before, need a bit of research.
 
Jun 20, 2017 at 10:52 AM Post #651 of 3,711
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I got Smart D200+ AK4497EQ. Sadly, this is discontinued.
Sound is awesome.
Does anyone have this here?
 
Jun 21, 2017 at 8:21 AM Post #655 of 3,711
anyone tried to mod zishan? i want to replace those elna re3s to silmic ii but same values will not fit there.. what is the minimum values for voltage and capacitance here?
6.3V 330 uF silmics barely fit here but i'm not sure if it's voltage rating is enough or not even in signal path? thanks..


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Jul 2, 2017 at 1:30 PM Post #660 of 3,711
Question to T.R.A.N.C.E., NNewman, Asakist, and other knowledgeable persons/owners.
Would you be kind enough to comment of all the variants

1) Zishan DSD no volume dial AK4490
2) Zishan DSD the "standard" version AK4495
3) D200 standard version
4) D200 v4

5) D200+ AK4495 and AK4497

6) E200 (?) - not on the market.

Pro and cons. Recommandation?

It would be very helpful to have these info in one place for someone like me unable to make a decision.
TIA
 

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