[koven]

I would personally hold out and try to find a pair of Telefunken E188CC's for $275-$250. They are my personal #1's, ahead of my grey shield Siemens Cca's and my Heerlen pinch waists. You'll initially conclude you can't find them for that price but if you're patient and persistent you can. I have a/b'd mine with the Upscale E88CC's and it was no contest on my gear. The E188CC's made the Upscales sound 2 dimensional and ordinary. FWIW.

thanks ill keep an eye out for the e188cc instead.

is this what you're referring to? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-E188CC-7...707454?hash=item489fcdc2fe:g:O-IAAOSwFBRZbgCm

 

[winders]

thanks ill keep an eye out for the e188cc instead.

is this what you're referring to? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-E188CC-7...707454?hash=item489fcdc2fe:g:O-IAAOSwFBRZbgCm

No! Those are not real Telefunken tubes made in Ulm. They may be made for Telefunken, but those are not the good tubes. They don't have the diamond in the bottom glass and the getter is a disc instead of an "O".

These are what you are looking for:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NOS-NIB-t...500496?hash=item58fb048910:g:8xEAAOSw3v5Yts9q

The date code is: U0105503

That translates to: made in Ulm, Germany on May 10th, 1965.

 

[billerb1]

Hope you didn't buy the ones you posted. I'm glad Winders warned you...but even the ones Winders linked aren't E188CC's...they are E88CC's, like the Upscales. You're looking for E188CC's with the diamonds on the bottom, made in Ulm, Germany.

Here's an example...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112489189741?rmvSB=true

 

[thecrow]

Hope you didn't buy the ones you posted. I'm glad Winders warned you...but even the ones Winders linked aren't E188CC's...they are E88CC's, like the Upscales. You're looking for E188CC's with the diamonds on the bottom, made in Ulm, Germany.

Here's an example...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112489189741?rmvSB=true

i ordered a pair of these of this buyer last november and i have had absolutely no problem with them

i can't remember if it was listed as "buy" or an auction where there was no other bidders - very similar price

hi guys, what do you guys think of these tubes? im looking to pickup a used pair for $200

https://www.upscaleaudio.com/products/telefunken-e88cc-6922

Hope you didn't buy the ones you posted. I'm glad Winders warned you...but even the ones Winders linked aren't E188CC's...they are E88CC's, like the Upscales. You're looking for E188CC's with the diamonds on the bottom, made in Ulm, Germany.

Here's an example...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112489189741?rmvSB=true

i agree with Bill as in wait for e188cc. i have seen a number of people buy and then sell these upscale tubes

i would say wait for tele e188cc if you want a sound that is clean, detailed and neutral sound - potentially a little thinner than....
the valvo e88cc or e188cc (ideally) holland tubes - these have a good level of detail with a touch of warmth and fantastic rich tone in the mids and lower end - it's a thread favourite

i would recommend the holland tubes as a real crowd pleaser and a great place to start tube rolling (or maybe not roll) - great balance of musicality and detail and sweetness
i think the teles are a great additional tube when you already have a decent tube or two and you want something in the clean detailed arena

 

[TK16]

Got a pair of the Tele E88CC, I rate the Tele E188CC, Siemens CCa, and Siemens E188CC above them. I would look for a pair of the Tele E188CC and be patient. $275ish range if your patient. Think that Tele E188CC is a Mullard with the dimple getter, they sound mediocre compared to my other Mullards.

 

[OldSkool]

Any love for the Amperex USN-CEP 6922? Thoughts?

 

[ThurstonX]

Any love for the Amperex USN-CEP 6922? Thoughts?

Not bad, of course, but as with the Telefunkens just discussed, I prefer the 7308 variant (same as E188CC in EuroSpeak). Been too long since I compared them, I just recall my conclusion. The US-made (* = Hicksville, NY) Amperex 7308s (orange label, if you're into that sort of thing) are just as good, IMO. You might be able to find them for $150 or less.

 

[thecrow]

Any love for the Amperex USN-CEP 6922? Thoughts?

I have the pq 6922 amd the usncep 7308.

The 7308 has a bit nore detail amd overall quite neutral. Bottom end is good. Just the bottom end reminds me quite a biy ofbthe holland tubes. But a bit tighter and not as warmly toned or rich. More like tight and punchy. Mids are very linear in a very neutral way. The top end has a nice level of extension and is quite airy/spacious. A step short of the level of detail of tele e188cc or the extension of the siemens cca.

I woudl recommend it if you are looking for a well priced (say about $150 per pair) neutral, rich, lively tube with spacious top end. Some might find it a tad lean due to those airy highs - depending on your system.

Perhaps an admirable cross (ie cheaper version) between a holland tube and a tele e188cc. Good and bad. Horses for courses.

The 6922 pq are slightly more laid back and a bit more musical (Not as much as holland tubes). Not as spacious up top as the 7308 for those that dont want it. Not congested though. Softer natural sound easy listening and a bit less detail than the 7308. I guess a similar vain to the hd600 headphone. Nothing wrong with it but you may want more of something from it. A bit like in no man's land between the holland tube and usncep7308 (when i look at what to roll next)

That should confuse you enough

 

[TK16]

Single Valvo Hamburg D-getter auction. 5 hrs left.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-VALVO-E8...ER-7L1-VACUUM-TUBE-TESTED-STRONG/292187204629

Single Telefunken? D-getter auction.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/E88CC-whit-D-getter-from-telefunken-/302393871393

 

[billerb1]

These Telefunken E188CC's that I used as a reference yesterday ended up going for $330. Not the best price I've ever seen but not a sharp stick in the eye either.
Good deal if they prove out...
Anybody here???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-E188CC-...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

 

[TK16]

He got more, although the same exact ad and pics.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-E188CC-...ins-RARE-DIAMOND-/112495726841?epid=668500046

Cheap pair of Brimars.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-OF-BRI...RY-GRADE-VALVES-HICKOK-gm-TESTED/222591787203

 

[thecrow]

He got more, although the same exact ad and pics.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-x-E188CC-...ins-RARE-DIAMOND-/112495726841?epid=668500046

He had the same (stock?) photo last year too.

He told me he had pairS last year. NOT if he mentioned numbers

and from memory he said he was a guitar or instrument repair shop (or related to something like that)

He was reasonably reaponsive to questions/messages i sent him

They are the only teles ive heard ao cant compare buy had no problem with them at all and they are as others describe them too

 

[kolkoo]

Here's some tasty apparel for all of you Siemens CCa lovers http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122617944839?ul_noapp=true

Edit: On a sidenote after years of being subbed on hifishark for Yggdrasil results I found a 2nd hand European Yggy this monday and bought it! It is not sent yet but soon I shall be revisiting all my lovely tubes (including the batches of British ones 1961-1965 that I have coming to me )

 

[thecrow]

Here's some tasty apparel for all of you Siemens CCa lovers http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122617944839?ul_noapp=true

Nice find but.... I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that's nit authentic and not from hamburg. Its a chines siemens rip off. Was it originally bought from oldguy radiola or one of those ukraine sellers?

 

[kolkoo]

I'm on a roll today with lovely finds, stumbled upon this gem, with codes deltaPO like What, also look at the marketing photo it got me good :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172773274476

Edit: In reality this might be a 1960 E188CC at a great price but I'm not sure what deltaPO means... maybe it's fake somehow

Edit2: For any 2C51 fans that have the adapter this might be a good find http://www.ebay.com/itm/253048137275 LM Ericsson Steel pins D-Getter probably made early 60s, I have a pair of these and they are great