I don't think there was a miscommunication or something going on at Flare. I specifically asked for the aluminum closed version and they said no plan for it.
Anyways, really love how they're still as un-fatiguing to listen as R2, not sure what's the principle behind it but it really makes it hard for me to go and listen to my other phones. Kinda wish Flare would license the technology behind it to other manufacturers sometimes.
Think the success of Isolates removed the need for an inexpensive, fast selling IEM product. The Isolates have to be far less trouble to build. No cable, driver, or assembly problems. Look how long it took to bring out the Flare Pro. Wonder if Flare would be in the crowded IEM market at all, if they hadn't done so much development work beforehand? Have my doubts. Isolates are a far easier way to make money...now. That will change. It will be very easy for companies to knock off Isolates.
Find all this very disappointing... What was introduced? A bluetooth box few if anyone ever asked for during the Flare Kickstarter days. And MMCX connectors. Hear nothing but bad things about these connectors when repeatedly hooked and unhooked. So I have an option of interchangeable cable ends with nothing I want to hook up.
Same here, I've found MMCX notoriously unreliable, even on TOTL IEMs like the Xelentos. IMHO it's an odd choice for a bluetooth box connector... and even if you're like me and actually welcome a wireless option, it effectively prevents you to use better third party receivers that support aptX HD or LDAC.
Won't deny that I'm curious about the new Flares, the old ones were pretty good. But these design choices remind me of my IE800, and I really don't want to go through something like that again.
The Y-split MMCX is actually really low key and very light, it's hardly an issue if you never gonna use the bluetooth module like me (though that's another issue of value I guess).
I was curious and played around with the huge vents on their back, tried to close them with micropore, blue-tack and the old R2Pro's caps (with blu-tack on the edge), all of them resulted on a huge loss of dynamic, particularly the high region, like they lost all the bites. Might be an option for people who find them too bright. Very easy to do and easily reversed.
Also, I was never a big believer of burn-in but these sure feel like they benefit from one, feels like the treble gets less hotter and 'crispier'. Observed similar change with Periodic Audio BE, another beryllium driver IEM.
I'm always a little skeptical about burn-in but can definitely hear a difference in these after around 20 hours, the treble has opened up more and is showing more detail for me. The bass for me is just sublime, when a track requires a low rumble it is there and when it requires a nice tight bass response it also there. This is possibly the best bass I've heard on an IEM, don't mean that as in having the most bass but having the most detailed and refined bass.
Agree, @LuckyNat it's strange how he expressed it, specifically speaking about Flares Pro. Anyway, the question was clearly not about flare iems in general, not a pro line.
I understand your doubts, maybe someone with better english could ask them again to check it...
Yeah, I'm the same. Would have been very happy with a single-ended cable at £200 or hey, who am I kidding, £250. Now I'm going to have to find another £150 for an aptX-enabled Cayin N3 just to get some value out of the Flares' Bluetooth capability. Bah!
Clearly true, I have to turn the knob significantly more than the Vega who is already power hungry
Power I get a sense the Beryllium driver in the Flares Pro is not terribly efficient, say around sub-100dB because the top end of the frequency response really scales very well indeed with a good quality signal from a portable amp or even some efficient desktop amps. Without a good signal or decent power, you get a slightly attenuated top end and less body in instrumental notes that some may classify as being on the bright side of things.
Eh I dunno, isn't it just gear matching? I have another Beryllium IEM (Periodic Be) that sounds absolutely smooth with Chord Mojo. Never heard anyone calling Mojo 'lacking power' either.
Won't be ideal directly out of phone jack (do recent iphones even have them?) but you can use the bluetooth module which probably will sound better anyway.
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