[Andykong]

Maybe it has to do with the LO being an optical out as well?

The 3.5mm port of N3 is shared between Headphone out and line out, N3 does not support optical out, so the port definitely won't output optical signal at anytime.

 

[chinmie]

We can remember the last output type, but for safety reason, we always reset the output to headphone when you power off the player.

i would really be grateful if you could consider adding "remember last output setting" in the next firmwares

 

[Andykong]

Wait, you're going to limit the ability to put EQ on the digital out? I just discovered the N3 last week and have been seriously researching it with the intention of buying - I have a Mojo and am looking for a good portable source, so I'm basically your target market. The N3 has great reviews and looks like it has all the features I need. The problem with the Mojo is that it's a bit light on bass, so I'm really keen on a source device that can apply EQ to the outgoing digital signal. At the moment I just use my phone, but would prefer a dedicated device (to have greater storage, and due to some ongoing problems with my phone dropping the audio out).

But if you get rid of the ability to EQ the digital out the N3 just won't cut it anymore for me! I don't understand why you would get rid of this function?

We are still working on this modification, its more difficult then we anticipated as when we resort to native volume, it didn't sound as good as before, so we are still working on this issue.

There was significant number of request for bit-perfect digital output from N3, Cayin was trying to entertain our customers as much as we could. Our plan is to remove the volume and gain control on line out, and output the digital bit-stream at native volume. We didn't intend to change the EQ setting as we can turn off the EQ completely on current menu, but I am not so sure about the final arrangement until I get to try the new firmware.

 

[Andykong]

i would really be grateful if you could consider adding "remember last output setting" in the next firmwares

Sorry, I can't offer any false hope here, the issues has been discussed thoroughly in the past, and the current setting is final. The risk is quite substantial as using headphone when N3 in LO might causing serious damages, especially with high sensitive IEMs.

 

[Andykong]

Can anyone tell me how the N3 handles pause and resume on music and podcasts? Is there a sleep function so that play resumes at the point where you stop listening?

I'm also having trouble finding a case for sale in the UK. Anyone know where to get them?

Cheers

Hi, you can click on the pause/play button to pause or resume the music. Yes, there is a sleep function so that play resumes at the point where you stop listening. Here is the contact method of UK retailer:

Advanced MP3 Players
TEL: 0343 289 6880
EMAIL: mark@advancedmp3players.co.uk
WEB:

http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk

The feature is called Breakpoint resume, you can turn it on at System setup menu.

I am not familiar with Podcasts, so I don't know if this will work for Podcast playback, but it will resume local playback at previous location when you power on the DAP again.

 

[Andykong]

Guys i noticed a problem with my cayin. I turned it off and charged it. About 4 or 5 hours later, its charged to 100 percent. I took the cable off. But then in the morning when i turned it on, its only 95%.

That's because the battery reading is an estimated based on the voltage measurement, it is NOT an exact figure as it appears, and the estimation is not as accurate at both end (near 100% and near 0%)., that;s why most DAP will only offer 5-bar or 3-bar meter on battery reading only.

Don't worry, if the battery duration remain intact and you can charge it beyone 95% when you wanted to, then the battery is properly in good condition.

 

[Pacem]

So basically, there is no way I can have the following scheme working with the N3?
Smartphone ---BT--> Cayin N3 ---S/PDIF out---> [...]

 

[captblaze]

So basically, there is no way I can have the following scheme working with the N3?
Smartphone ---BT--> Cayin N3 ---S/PDIF out---> [...]

you mean like this?

 

[Andykong]

I am waiting delivery of an N3. my intent is to use it as a wireless transport for my mojo. will hiby link allow me to do that? I am tired of wait for poly to become available and until it is I figured this might be a temporary alternative. Am I correct in my planning, or is there no way I can make it happen. the chain would be N3 tethered to mojo with hiby link handling the control duties.

last question... can I stream from my android device to mojo through the N3?

Hi, if your topology is cell phone))((N3--Mojo, yes, you can control mojo through the N3 with your android device.

Just to clarify that if you want to use HiByLink function in N3, you need to connect your N3 and your mobile phone in BT and the N3 will function in client mode.

My assistant has suggested you to connect N3 to mojo via a physical connection, it can be USB or coaxial, and then you can use your mobile phone to direct the operation of N3 via HiByLink, and that's the best you can get from N3 as wireless transport.

 

[Pacem]

Oh so it works, nice! Thank you both.

 

[captblaze]

Just to clarify that if you want to use HiByLink function in N3, you need to connect your N3 and your mobile phone in BT and the N3 will function in client mode.

My assistant has suggested you to connect N3 to mojo via a physical connection, it can be USB or coaxial, and then you can use your mobile phone to direct the operation of N3 via HiByLink.

thanks... I got it all figured out

 

[Andykong]

So basically, there is no way I can have the following scheme working with the N3?
Smartphone ---BT--> Cayin N3 ---S/PDIF out---> [...]

Yes, this is workable, we have tried this when N3 back in March/April, and we have put up a photo to prove that, too bad we lost the gallery function within a thread, so I can't find the post, but I can assure you the the S/PDIF is working when N3 is receiving from BT.

PS: Find the post eventually:

https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/c...coax-out-for-150.833932/page-14#post-13317549

 

[BroncoVA]

Can you tell me more detail about this transaction? Cayin didn't sell to customer directly unless we have verified that there is no way the transaction be covered by a local dealer, so I am kind of surprised that you said Cayin CHARGE you $50 for shipping. Did you contact our Sales for the quote directly? What was the shipping condition for this transaction?

By the way, where are you located? Maybe I can find you a nearby shop to place an order for the Type-C to 3.5mm cable for you at a much lower shipping cost?

i didn't contact anyone as there was an internet shop on the link you gave page 195 (or something) under the picture of the cable, I clicked on the pre-order link and on the check-out it adds 50$ for shipping.
I'm in Italy at the French border (between Nice and Sanremo), if you have a good address or a way to buy on internet (always better).
Thanks for your help

 

[Joe Bloggs]

Ive downloaded the One from the anticipated beta that was posted here by Andy and then the one thats on the N3 new V2 firmware. None of them works on those 3 devices.
The HibyMusic app all close abruptly when connecting to the N3 via HibyLink.

If i dont turn on HibyLink on the N3 then i can connect to it as a bluetooth receiver from the same devices, so bluetooth is working on the N3 and on the android devices.
Thanks, will try to follow that thread also.

Hello jms74,

Could you please detail the operation steps taken leading up to the force close, are they similar / identical to the steps given in Cayin's HiByLink connection guide?

Also, can you open system settings on your phone, look for Installed Apps->HiByMusic and tell us what permissions have been given / denied it?

Thank you and best regards,
Joseph Yeung
HiByMusic Team Member

 

[Andykong]

i didn't contact anyone as there was an internet shop on the link you gave page 195 (or something) under the picture of the cable, I clicked on the pre-order link and on the check-out it adds 50$ for shipping.
I'm in Italy at the French border (between Nice and Sanremo), if you have a good address or a way to buy on internet (always better).
Thanks for your help

I guess you went to the online shop of MusicTeck, that's our US distributor. For the record, that is NOT a quote from Cayin. So Cayin didn't ask for $50 shipping cost.

I have listed MusicTeck in the announcement because they are the first dealer created a product page for the cable. I have looked for other dealers such as AdvancedMP3 from UK or our distributor from Japan, they have ordered the cable but they didn't up up a link for it on that day, so leaving only one alternative in the list.

We have listed our international distributor/dealers in our website, you are welcome to check out the list and pick one that is more reachable from your locatoin.
http://en.cayin.cn/netword/show?c=129&ctype=2&smallid=191&id=13499

In face, we have a distributor in Italy, maybe you can call them up and see if they have carried the cable:
POLARIS AUDIO SRL
Address:Via Matteo Babini, 2800139 - ROMA (RM)ITALY
VAT ID: IT12844831003
Phone: 0039-06-91.650.8973