Thanks for replying! I will definitely consider eBay for the akgs if I get them

I realize that they are both very different but long and mcquade has the beyers for $165 and I was going to pair them with a Schitt Magni. The K167s are around the same price and I've heard they have a vey wide soundstage for closed back cans. I mostly game on PC and listen to mostly rap and rock.

What would be the cheapest acceptable amp for the hd600s?

Amazing thread.

Wouldn't removing the grills alone be much easier?

Few more months and these will be mine at last!

If I have a xonar dx will the e17 essentially replace it?

Aren't you afraid you'll damage the drivers?

I've read that thread before but the OP never gave his final thoughts or whether or not he ordered from them :(

It seems that they have b stock headphones for really cheap, but has anyone have experience with them? http://www.dakmart.com/product_info.php?cPath=4_9_28&products_id=4509

Well, I guess that answers my question. Thanks!

Thanks, have you ever tried the hd650s? Do you think they could compare better to the k701s than the hd600s? I listen to dubstep and rock quite a lot.

Oh ok, because I have a Xonar DX and was thinking of using an e11 and the HD600s for gaming

By Dolby Headphone I meant the virtual surround that cards like the Xonar line have. Sorry for the confusion

Do you use dolby headphone

How are they for FPS shooters or any gaming?I've thought about getting them and after reading up a but, they appear to suit my needs music wise

I've found a website that sells HD600s for $200 CAD but are refurbished http://www.dakmart.com/m70/SENNHEISER/p4509/Sennheiser-HD600-HD-600-bstock-Hi-Fi-Professional-Headphones/product_info.html I was wondering how these would compare in terms of using dolby headphone with an e11 against the...

Sorry or the burden, but how do you feel the vmoda m80s compare to the dt990s?

Sorry I was being stupid when I typed this, I meant the 250ohms. I was looking at the fiio e11s. My budget is prob around 80 dollars

Will my soundcard with no amp work with these headphones. I will use them for music like electronic and rock, but mainly for games like Counter Strike and BF3. Answers and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

I will, thanks!

I play games like BF3, and counter strike a lot. I like bass but not too much. Sources would be my iPhone and my PC with onboard sound and later maybe xfi titanium sound card

In terms of sound and value, which would you recommend? I listen mostly to dubstep and rap. I will be using them for gaming as well.

How can you connect stereo headphones to the back of the xonar dx? I know it's not the best for headphones but its all i have. I jut need to know which ports to plug the headphone jack into

Thanks