so i ordered clip+   that seems to be better choice than c3 now because as per many people the bass is somewhat lacking in c3, also see the rmaa tests:   http://www.markuskraus.com/RMAA/ColorflyC3/data.htm   compared to:   http://www.markuskraus.com/RMAA/clipplus/data.htm  ...

so this explains many of the observations people had so far: http://www.markuskraus.com/RMAA/ColorflyC3/data.htm   thanks to skamp for pointing this out

thanks for your comments. if separation is great, i'll probably go for c3, but at least will go through other people's comments and other reviews on the net before finalizing.

Quote: no i'm certainly interested in c3.. i understand colorfly is respectable brand having a renowned player c4 already i also have lots of hopes from c3 but i just wanted to be more technical in details.. also.. stozzer has put in his review that "it is not as warm as hm601 or sony...

Quote: i wanted a more technical one in the sense of measurements like thd+n, frequency response, dynamic range, distortion, etc. though its reviews are good, so far i have only seen c3 being appreciated by handful of people.. and those might be very personal views the hint i got that...

found a frequency response curve for c3, cant say if genuine: http://forum.mp3store.pl/topic/86082-colorfly-c3-na-mniejsze-kieszenie/   it'll be really helping if someone does a tech review of c3 now

Quote:   Which model of Sony you might be referring to?

Quote:   It seems foolish to ask but did you completely fill the sd card and the player could play all songs? If that's so then why they don't write support for 64GB cards also. It's a ++ for their product.   Also if someone could answer my previous questions, it'll be quite assuring...

@stozzer123   Thanks for writing such a nice review and also very thanks to all others on their views on C3. Before I finally order it, I have 2 doubts:   1. If you (or someone else) has compared it against CK4, can you detail about sq?   And in regards to already going discussion...

@audionewbi and kova4a   sorry, didn't know that, i guessed from their website colorfly.eu, the style of player also looked European.

Just noticed that all c3 on eBay are showing only Chinese manual in the description, isn't Colorfly somewhere from Europe (at least their website is colorfly.eu)? Is there any possibility of them being fake or something... i hope not.

Clip+ is only slightly better than iPod, according to a tech review I read somewhere. T51 looks more of a show-off, and seems to have some problems also (don't know if they are resolved now)   After reading some reviews of C3, it feels like this is the best choice, seems very dedicated to...

Thanks a lot for pointing out. Quote:

@both   Thank you very very much, now my confusions are going bit by bit.   @kenman345   I realized that since there are loads of options I must now stick to some budget, say < $250, I can spend more if deal is really worth it. So HDP-R10 is probably out as it is ~$1300 on amazon...

@Danneq   Thanks for reply.   My main attraction was x-fi eq, for which Creative is known. Though I will also stick to normal playing but once in a while I can switch on the eq. However, some reviews clearly say not to buy, specially from here onwards...

@kenman345   Thanks for such a long reply. I was hoping for such.   I must say that I am stunned by the specs of Colorfly, DX100, Altmann Tera-Player. They have the highest SNR and least THD+N I ever came across my findings. They even beat HiFiMan's player which I was considering as...

don't know about them, though i've mostly decided to go with zen x-fi3, unless someone gives strong suggestion against it

Hi,   I am planning to buy a portable music player (like ipod, etc.), my top priority is audio quality and support for lossless audio, that's all. (budget is not much problem, but won't like to go with HiFiMan's products)   After doing lots of research on the net, Creative Zen X-fi3...