Nothing like a 1000 dollar headphone that is too cheap for 2 cent damping materials in the cups. 

You honestly think Shure doesn't know how to measure distortion?  Please people, when will you stop giving manufacturers the benefit of the doubt and realize they are playing you for fools.  These aren't designed to distort for a certain effect.  Give me a break.  They just weren't designed...

Saying it was such a concious choice gives them way too much credit.  They don't have that much control over the drivers or the final sound, if they did, they would sound better.  The problems are because of them not having control, not investing the time to make a better driver that didn't...

There's a lot of open back phones that have more bass with less distortion.  I think it's making excuses for them, not a choice they made.    This is 2012.  With all the new materials we have over the past couple decades, headphones should be improving. 

Wishful thinking at best.  There is a reason everyone loves the LCD-2 bass.  Flat, extended, fast, low distortion. 

It's not distortion man, it's sex fuzz. 

Yup, it's mine.  Thank you very much!  I was going to make a bunch more unboxing parodies but I don't think it's worth it considering how many views that one has. 

I added a full review to the first post.  I wrote it a couple months ago but it was in the review section where no one ever goes.  This is now a rather complete analysis with the unboxing video, review, and measurements. 

And Tyll has an ideal curve as well.  Notice how all the best headphones are flat from bass through midrange, then dip, then peak at 9k, then dip and peak again.  That's not their actual response, that's what his measurement rig is adding to their response.  it doesn't mean they all actually...

Quote:     This is very wrong.  You don't understand how to read these graphs.  There is an "ideal curve" that represents neutral.  You can think of it like a scale that's not zero'ed out.  Those dips are not dips to the human ear, they are dips only relevant to the measurement...

Quote:   Yes.  I'm a fan of all things on this website that aren't complete BS.

Quote:   If you followed Purrin's CSD plot thread, you would already know that he listens first because he spent months posting subjective impressions, followed up with csd measurements.  He was usually spot on, but not always.      Quote:   It doesn't take me a week to...

It seems they have slightly less bass distortion than the ksc-75/35/porta pro.  How would you compare the distortion in the rest of the spectrum vs ksc-75?

Quote:   Trying to discredit Anaxilus is ridiculous and only makes you look desperate.  He has some of the best listening ability of anyone on head-fi.  If meet conditions weren't good enough for him to hear them accurately, he would reserve judgement. 

Apparently the Electra is either a copy of the ES1 or a copy of one of Kevin Gilmore's designs.  We won't know which until we know how good the Electra is. 

Quote:   So what you want is a forum full of corporate shills, who are here to hype amps and push more brainless consumerism.  Why don't you come over and give me a foot massage before you kiss my schiit mjolnir. 

Quote:   "different interpretation"  ie subjectivity?  So while subjective impressions of gear is invalid, subjective impressions of objective measurements are?  We just get to make up whatever we want about measurements to fit our ignorant sonic impressions?    No one said you need...

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Quote:   Fail post of the year. 

You must not have looked at his FR graph of HD800 and SR009 if that's the conclusion you came to. 

Quote:   Subjective nonsense.

Which is why the sound science forum is irrelevant and no one cares.  Let's take a bunch of people who have no idea what they're talking about, put them in an isolated forum, and pontificate endlessly about an objective only approach to a subjective experience.    You all need to get out more. 

This is also why we need subjectivity.  So we know we're measuring something wrong because the HD800 is clearly both faster, and cleaner than the HD650.  These graphs show you what happens when you use objectivity only.  You start measuring things poorly, and just keep doing it blindly because...

I'm sorry but Goldenears measurements are complete crap.  Just look at their M50 measurements:     What, did the driver get stuck?  Read Purrin's post above carefully.  Even when they manage to start their mesurements at roughly the right time, they are so smoothed and averaged, they're...