that is some excellent thinking armaegis,   I was starting to lose hope of someone being sensible about the price vs return.     I can see how power can add to noise if its not filtered or EMI is excessive.   I might be wrong in this one, but I am going to take this a bit further...

I am not aware of fake full size headphones since it will cost a bit to make ones compared to in ear ones.   however I could be wrong

thanks for your time and advice Armaegis.   one final question, I found people paying more money for cables than headphones.   in certian cases, really expsneive power cables like kimber kable power.   that does not make much sense. at the end of the day cable might affect how the...

here is how the equalizer looks like at "powerfull"   http://postimage.org/image/z1tv4s8h3/   I am trying to understand how frequency response graphs for headphones is interpreted, by the way I am an software engineer, so I understand how DSP work, but not for audio:    ...

here is a screen shot of windows settings.   http://postimage.org/image/r2zdoh3k5/full/   that setting remove the "muddiness" of the sound, however harsh sounds become even harsher.   what is a EQ program you recommend?

found a problem to solve this problem for now.   volume equalizer in windows set to "powerfull" whatever that means.   but the sound is better, but after a while its sorta causes a headache. not sure if that make sense to anyone

the above does make sense now, I just read about the loudness wars.   would you think something like the hifiman HE-400 would sound better at lower volume? as I am currently looking to replace mine with those.   also I had Xonar ST in my PC, and noticed no difference between that and my...

Quote:   I think I need to clarify by lack of details, I mean missing instruments like subtle and quieter instruments.

sounds like the HD650 have to go then.   by the way,  how do you compare amped vs un-amped HD650 on low volume?   does the amp unlock the headphones better even at low volume, or is the amp only job to increase max sound level

so I am not an audiophile, I own HD650 which are my first real good headphones.   however I found that there are details I cannot hear unless I pump the volume slightly on the high side.   I dont enjoy loud volume music\ movies, in fact I find it annoying, however I like the level of...

Quote: thanks for the info,  I got the HD650 now.   and the xonar ST. so hopefully no driver issues.   I did go over budget though :P

Quote: I can say sorry for your wallet too if you pay more than that for headphones :P   joking aside.   I just bought HD650, with xonar ST, will give them a go and go from there.   thanks for input everyone

I had not looked in to Ultrasone, are they more natuaral like the HD650 etc   or more toward grado harsh treble?

so I decided to see whats like to listen to more expensive headphones,   I have a budget of £50-£200 for the headphones, might buy the ASUS Xonar Phoebus on top if it turns out to be any good.   - I am not audiophile (at least yet) so I have no idea what to expect   - I mainly watch...