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Thanks for that info. I've decided finally that it is between either the sm3 and 1964 -Q as originally I thought. What is the difference between the sm3 and sm3 v2? I actually prefer the look of the original. 

I am interested in either the sm3 or one of the monster turbine pros. what is the difference between the copper and gold? Also, what amps would pair well with these, or do they not need amping?

any more opinions on custom vs universal?

thanks for the answer. has anyone heard the jh5 and 1964 ears Quads both? I would like to know which offers better price/performance.    What do you consider low quality music and a bad source to be? I use my ipod touch 2g currently with mp3 files at 192-320 kbps. Should I rip them all to...

Also, I hear customs benefit from amping more than universals. Is this true?

my ears are by no mean big, so I guess thats out of the question. what is your take on custom vs universal though at the same price point

Sorry, my bad. I listen to a good deal of dubstep, classic rock, alt rock, classical, and a little bit of hip hop/pop. Isolation is great to have, but not a factor at all for me, and I want some fun sounding earphones. I listen to music for enjoyment, not to a/b for the best set up in the whole...

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I am looking for a nice portable setup. I need the iems, source (unless my ipod touch 2g is sufficient), and portable amp/cables (please leave opinion on these) if needed. My budget for the iems alone is 300, but it is lenient. 

Quote: Really? I heard many people dislike the iTouch's SQ.  

Quote: I've heard the Sansa Clip and HM602 are comparable in terms of sound quality, and wanted to confirm the validity of the statement. No matter what, I will be getting the iTouch 5 this September, so should I just stick with that? Can someone give their opinion of which ones are...

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Interesting. How would you guys fair the iPod touch paired with the rsa p-51 against the hifiman? Better? Worse? Also, is it worth my while to go and pick up a sansa clip today? They're on sale for $40 (4GB), and they look perfect for jogging.

I'll be using the 1964-Q custom iem. I hear that the hifiman 602 has an amp built into it. Does that mean if I buy a seperate amp it would be redundant? If so, how good is the built in amp? I'm currently looking at the GS voyager or ibasso d4 as a seperate amp. I'm new to the head-fi scene, so...