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post #151 of 698
I have to say I'm very impressed with the VD reference AC cords,
they are easily the best cords I have ever had in my system. I almost can't believe the improvement in 3D soundstage and retreaval of fine detail they provide, while at the same time sounding very natural. I was an AC cord advocate before but I think even I underestimated how dramtically they can improve the sound, while at the same time confounding the skeptics that say it can't be so.

I now believe AC cord upgrades produce more improvement than
IC or speaker cable upgrades. I wasn't anywhere near as impressed with the VD Signature ICs, the improvement was much smaller than the obvious changes brought on by the Reference AC cords, especially when I placed one on my CDP......WOW!
I can't remember any other $300 range AC cord I've tried that is even in the same league as the VD reference. Needless to say these are staying in my system, I haven't decided yet if I keep the VD Sigs IC, more listening is needed.

I can live with the messy cable situation I guess, these AC cords have very low WAF (wife acceptance factor) but I'm not married so I will live dangerously.
post #152 of 698
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post #153 of 698
Thread Starter 
"I now believe AC cord upgrades produce more improvement than
IC or speaker cable upgrades."

Damn! Yes!!!!!! I was very very reluctant to be the one to say this because I thought no one would believe me! Prior to my experience with the VD power cables I wouldn't have believed it either.

Who'd a thunk that a power cord can alter the sound more than an IC? I concur 100% DarkAngel!

Let the chips fall where they may, don't knock it until you've tried it!

markl
post #154 of 698
OMG, please don't let me call Ric next week at VD, someone stop me please. Unfortunately my system requires 5 AC cords in current configuration so I have room for more VDs.

It will really be a challange to connect a VD AC cord to my small Bel Canto Dac 1.1, but thats really next on the list for cable upgrade. Mark why not sell me one of those Sig AC cords you're not using?

I have more to say about these VD cables in the near future.
post #155 of 698
Dammit, my Power 3's are just getting broken in, and it's looking like I'm going to have to upgrade already. Somebody post a downside, so I can at least hold off a couple months...
post #156 of 698
Hirsch
You already know the downside.......the size & stiffness issue.
Fortunately the Audition, Reference, and Signatures are actually easier to manage than the lower end AC cords because they retain the shape they are bent to. You just need to pre-bend it to shape for final installation, not too bad unless you have 3-4 cords to deal with then things get crowded.

You can check my website below for pictures of VD cables installed in my rack system. I know your wallet took a dent recently with the Sony headphones, but you really must join Mark & myself in being amazed at the AC cords.
post #157 of 698
Thread Starter 
The VD power cords were a real "come to Jesus" experience for me. I had always considered power cords to be the absolute height of audio-foolishness. What about the 50 miles of craptacular power cable from the power company leading up to my poorly wired outlet in my noisy apartment with all those other devices "grunging up" my power? How is it possible that the last 5 feet of cable can make a difference?

If I could go back in time even 3 months ago and tell myself that I now thought power cords were *more important* than ICs, and then reveal how much I ended up spending on the VD power cords, I would have immediately committed myself. I would now be writing to you from the comfort of the rubber room.

Again-- I say for $50 plus a 15-day return policy, the Power 3 is a slam dunk and just might change your mind, too. All you'd be out is the postage back and forth. Of course, once you hear the Power 3, you'll end up upgrading....

Having said that, I want to re-post my caveats and considerations from earlier in this thread for those of you tuning in late:

1. Someone else said it best when they advised that power cords should be one of the last tweaks in a system you already love. The idea is to add that extra layer of icing on the cake, not to "transform" from a Bose into a Nautilus.

2. It makes little sense to attach a fancy powercord to a low-cost, mass-produced component that has many cost/performance compromises. Although I'm no electrical engineer, it seem obvious to me that adding "clean power" to "dirty" "noisy" or "cheap" components will do little to erradicate the nasties in the system.
My components, a Melos Maestro and a heavily-modified Sony SCD-333ES each have very tricked-out, beefy, well-engineered and thoughtfully constructed power supplies. No, they're not cost no object designs, but they're plenty good, good enough to really allow a good power cable to shine. In fact, the Sony also has Bybee filters at the AC Mains to further reduce distortion in power supply. These components also have higher quality parts in the signal path, components that reject "nasties" and let a clean signal pass.
OK, bottom line, think about your component. Even if it has a removable IC, how good are the parts in there? Good enough to let a POWER CABLE make them sing? If you have your doubts, money should be spent upgrading that component before you swap its power cable!

3. Your Headphone Listening Style (http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showt...listening+style ), will also determine the degree to which you will notice the power cord's effects. Affects like these are best appreciated by people who close their eyes and focus solely on the music. That said, I still think that the astonishing level of change I've experienced in my system would be readily obvious to even a casual listen.

4. Power conditioners are good. Monster makes some effective and low-cost solutions. I've recently scaled back from an HTS5000 to the new HTS1100 in anticipation of getting these cables. Again, VD reco'd sticking them straight into the wall. Well, the 1100 has fewer stages of filtartation than the HTS5000 yet it still has the surge protection. So, long story short, these results were obtained with the cables plugged into the conditioner, despite a reco that they go straight to the wall for maximum effect.

markl
post #158 of 698
I wonder... would a good VD power cord make as much or more difference than a BPT Jr?
post #159 of 698
Quote:
eric343 said...

I wonder... would a good VD power cord make as much or more difference than a BPT Jr?
I would like to know this too (my rather selfish guess is no ), as well how much difference it would make in addition to a BP-Jr?

markl, have you compared the sound of the pc going into the Monster vs the sound going straight into the wall?
post #160 of 698
Thread Starter 
eric,
As in all things audio the answer is "it depends"...

In my experience, the VD cables made more of a difference than any power conditioners I've tried. It's also much cheaper than any power conditioner....

Darkangel,
Stop teasing and give us your review already!!!!

And no, my Sig Cryos are NOT for sale, and I'm using them both. These cables are now a "permanent" fixture in a system in which nothing is "permanent" outside of my Sony R10s. The VD cables will travel with me everywhere I go in audio from now on. They're that good...

markl
post #161 of 698
Thread Starter 
Hi dhwilkin,
I'm paranoid and psychologically *need* the surge protection provided by my Monster HTS1100 (a fine "cheap" power conditioner). So, no, I haven't gone straight to the wall as advised by VD.

markl
post #162 of 698
markl- I'm sure Vertigo-1 would have said his R10s were a 'permanent' fixture in his system a few months ago, also...
post #163 of 698
Please? Just a quickie half-hour listening test is all I'm asking for. I completely agree w/ the need for surge protection (my BPT unit is plugged into a surge protector), but surely you can risk a half-hour?
post #164 of 698
Thread Starter 
"markl- I'm sure Vertigo-1 would have said his R10s were a 'permanent' fixture in his system a few months ago, also..."

Yeah but Vert's getting out of the headphone game and I've got nowhere to go but the Orpheus (fat chance of that ending up in my system).

"Please? Just a quickie half-hour listening test is all I'm asking for. I completely agree w/ the need for surge protection (my BPT unit is plugged into a surge protector), but surely you can risk a half-hour?"

All you need is $50 and a telephone....

markl
post #165 of 698
My cryo basic arrived. I think the woven casing is very attractive. No problem mashing it behind my component console....
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