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post #106 of 698
Thread Starter 
Couldn't resist. Had to grab some Signature Cryo power cords demo models while they still have some. I originally called asking for Auditions, but demand is too high and they had no demo models at the present moment.

Now this cable should answer the question once and for all, "how much can a power cord improve the sound". Check it out:



I recognize that these cords are probably meant for gear better than mine, but as I upgrade, I can take the Signature cords with me!

markl
post #107 of 698
Yes that is the spirit! At a certain point of course spending more on AC cords is not as effective as upgrading gear, each person must find the balance in their own system. Where will that cable go in your system Mark?

When you say "some" cords do you mean more than one? If so all I can say is.................OMG!

I think Hirsch also did some cables buying today, but like the Sphinx he is being mysterious and keeping us guessing as to what........heh,heh,heh
post #108 of 698
BTW Mark that was a fast conversion from AC cord skeptic to owner of VD top of the line AC cord
post #109 of 698
Thread Starter 
"BTW Mark that was a fast conversion from AC cord skeptic to owner of VD top of the line AC cord"

he he. Didn't you hint I'd do this earlier in this saga? You were right!

"When you say "some" cords do you mean more than one? If so all I can say is.................OMG! "

One for my Melos Maestro, and another one for my Sony SCD-333ES with Modwright mods and Bybee filters.

Rick sez they will "knock my socks off." Well, I'm still short a sock from the friggin' Power 3. When the Sigs arrive I may need 911!!!!!!!!!

markl
post #110 of 698
Holy CRAP those cords are MASSIVE!!!

Are you planning to tow cement trucks with them or something?!
post #111 of 698
Thread Starter 
So far, these VD cables have been the best thing I've done in terms of tweaks for my system. I don't know what better endorsement of their products I can give besides to tell you that I am re-wiring my system top to bottom with VD cables.

They're BIG, but damn are they good. They have re-defined for me what an interconnect can do, let alone what a power cable can do. These cables have re-defined what I will consider "good sound" from here on out. I think Rick's literally captured "lightning in a bottle".

markl
post #112 of 698
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Originally posted by DarkAngel

I think Hirsch also did some cables buying today, but like the Sphinx he is being mysterious and keeping us guessing as to what........heh,heh,heh
I did buy today, but not cables (yet). I'm getting one of the GW Labs upsamplers to use in tandem with the DI/O. Should be an interesting experiment...
post #113 of 698

Progress Report

Well after 3-4 days of break-in on system 2 using XLO/Reference
break-in track VD Sigs are now installed in main system. This process reminds me of a DR Suess book with the strange plumbing pictures. The Sig was pre-bent to approximate shape by holding cable where it was to be installed. After bends are applied
IC holds the shape and can be installed without stressing or damaging your RCA jacks.

The VD Sigs replace a 1m run of HG Silver Laces between preamp-amps, will report my findings after couple days of listening. Sometime this week my VD Ref AC cords should arrive, so more fun to be had.

Although I got great deal on this demo IC, it is the most money I have ever spent on a single pair of ICs, so I hope I like it. I think if I ever did decide to sell, it would be gone in 1 hr at Audiogon
so pretty much risk free proposition.
post #114 of 698

Re: Progress Report

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Originally posted by DarkAngel
I think if I ever did decide to sell, it would be gone in 1 hr at Audiogon
so pretty much risk free proposition.
Thinking like that is exactly how I convinced myself to buy 4 Power 3s Thank god the Outlaw PCAs came along or I'd be tempted to buy some ICs from VD.

OT: BTW DarkAngel, I've replied to your PM. That'll make a nice graduation present to myself!
post #115 of 698

Re: Progress Report

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Originally posted by DarkAngel

Although I got great deal on this demo IC, it is the most money I have ever spent on a single pair of ICs, so I hope I like it. I think if I ever did decide to sell, it would be gone in 1 hr at Audiogon
so pretty much risk free proposition.
Going copper DA? Is this for your speakers or headphones? What speakers do you have?
post #116 of 698
Pig
Don't quote me on this, but I believe Rick said the VD Sigs IC have 9 gauge solid copper (I think) conductor cryo treated with the VD mechanical vibration filter material. I am using PSB Silver-i speakers, look at my webpage you will see pictures of VD Sigs.
post #117 of 698
I am still waiting for my VD Ref AC cords.......must get them before Mark so he will be jealous, heh,heh,heh

Am getting close to reporting on VD Sig ICs, I will tell you they are excellent at reproducing 3D soundstage with extremely smooth liquid sound, looks like I keep them.......more to come.
post #118 of 698
Well slight delay for VD Ref AC cords, seems last weekend was holiday in Canada, so today was 1st work day of week. Delivery now looks like Thursday-Friday of this week.

My initial impressions of VD Signature IC are very good indeed. They remind me tonally of Cardas Golden Cross or perhaps AZ Matrix, in that "in my system" thay are very slightly warm, very liquid sound that is completely free of any hardness, very relaxed smooth sounding. Compared to HG Silver Laces or even the copper/silver hybrid HT ProSilway II they do not quite have the upper treble extension and therefore sound more relaxed, similar to almost any other copper cable I have heard vs silver cables. They lack the very high end treble sparkle a good silver design provides.

That is the only weakness I can find, the remaining 85-90% of the range however surpasses the HG Silver Laces and ProSilway II. VD Sigs present a huge 3D soundstage, slightly bigger than my other ICs, and not only is it bigger it also seems more real or holographic. This is the strongest feature of the VD Sigs for me.
Coupled with the liquid smoothness is extremely impressive retrevial of fine detail, amazing considering how completely natural and musical the ICs are, don't sound cold or analytical at all which can be the weakness of many silver designs.

I think these ICs would literally be miracle workers in systems that lean slightly to the bright/cold side, and in a tonally nuetral system they are very impressive. If you have a slightly warm system these might be a bit too warm/dark sounding. When I install the VD AC cords my initial impressions may change a bit.
Perhaps Mark can add his impressions of the VD Reference ICs.

BTW, I continue to be amazed/impressed at how good the HG Silver Laces sound for $190 retail, better cables are available but I know of no other IC that offers the price/performance ratio of Silver Laces.
post #119 of 698
Thread Starter 
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I am still waiting for my VD Ref AC cords.......must get them before Mark so he will be jealous, heh,heh,heh
My Sig Cryos shipped on Friday via Canadian "Express Mail". I may get mine before you!

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"in my system" thay are very slightly warm, very liquid sound that is completely free of any hardness, very relaxed smooth sounding. Compared to HG Silver Laces or even the copper/silver hybrid HT ProSilway II they do not quite have the upper treble extension and therefore sound more relaxed, similar to almost any other copper cable I have heard vs silver cables. They lack the very high end treble sparkle a good silver design provides.
DarkAngel, as I recall you are not listening "directly" to these cables, but there's another set in the signal path, and possibly another component as well, is that correct? That makes judging them a bit more difficult I would guess, or at least it adds some variables to the equation

Mine are installed directly from my SCD-333ES with Modwright mods to my Melos Maestro. However, I have a Sonic Horizons Daybreak extension cable in my signal path that will soon (if it ever shows up) be replaced by a Sonic Horizons Hurricane headphone extension. The Daybreak is a great extension for $60, but the Hurricane is more than double the price and presumably significantly better. Getting that cable should let me "hear" the VD Reference Cryo ICs better.

Right now I think the Daybreak is the weak link in the chain, yet despite this I still got a whopping improvement over my two previous ICs, the AudioMagic Spellcaster ($400 retail) and Stealth Cable FLR (retail $240), both of them were silver and were excellent cables compared to the other better cables I had before (MIT T2 and Monster Z-Series).

I've not experienced a loss in the highs at all with the VD Reference ICs compared to those two silver cables. In fact, Rick warned me that some people might find his ICs "bright" as they were not used to full and accurate extension up top that his cables make possible. I've heard the extension in the bass region combined with the more emphatic midrange I noted earlier. I don't doubt that the highs are equally more "present" as well, yet they aren't harsh or etched. I wouldn't describe them as dark up top anyway.

I also believe that upgrading to the Sig Cryo power cords will further enhance the positive effects of the Reference ICs, but how much remains to be seen.

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That is the only weakness I can find, the remaining 85-90% of the range however surpasses the HG Silver Laces and ProSilway II. VD Sigs present a huge 3D soundstage, slightly bigger than my other ICs, and not only is it bigger it also seems more real or holographic. This is the strongest feature of the VD Sigs for me.
Yes! The VD cables are soundstaging champs and that's a MAJOR hot-button for me. I listen with my eyes closed and visualize the performance in my mind's eye. The VD really enhance this experience.

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Coupled with the liquid smoothness is extremely impressive retrevial of fine detail, amazing considering how completely natural and musical the ICs are, don't sound cold or analytical at all which can be the weakness of many silver designs.
To me, it's not that the VD cables "remove" the edge, they are giving you the truth. To me, the etch, hash, and sharpness of some cables is a coloration, not the VD's "naturalness". These cables are tonally "right" to my ears. They aren't always reminding you that you're listening to a recording-- it sounds more like a real event which helps you again with imaging.

I would never have thought that a cable could make as much difference as the VD's have in my system. They've completely changed my mind about the relative importance of cables.

I was recently chatting with Hart from Audio Advancements and he had a set of $700 interconnects that he was trying to sell me. I told him I didn't really put much credence in cables as I had yet to hear a level of difference that really made me go "WOW"! He said to me: "Mark, you must treat interconnects as you would the actual *components* in your system. "Yeah, right" I thought, "thanks but no thanks, you can keep your $700 ICs!"

Now, I BELIEVE.

markl
post #120 of 698
Mark
Thanks for your impressions, I think you are a bit more impressed with VDs than I am. I am doing all listening though main speakers and yes there are other ICs and speaker cables in my chain, that is why I tend to have a lot of cable sets around, always trying new things.

Haven't tried any AudioMagic or Stealth cables in my system. We both totally agree on great 3D capabilities of VDs, however after I wrote my previous post I again switched VDs back to HG Silver Laces and noticed beter treble extension with the Silver Laces
as noted prevously.
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