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(Note: a condensed and edited version of this 700-post+ thread can be found here: http://www4.head-fi.org/forums/showt...825#post218825).

Haven't tried a fancy power cable (yet), and I remain skeptical. I have a power conditioner (Monster HTS5000), so I question the degree to which the cable is necessary.

Nevertheless, I came across the Virtual Dynamics Power 3 cord on audiogon:

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.p...owr&1021153912

www.virtualdynamics.ca

It looks very beefy and will ultimately retail for $200. The $50 deal is an introductory offer. Feedback on audiogon seems quite positive.

Anyone here try these? Will someone take the plunge and report back? They seem to have a return policy. I'm so tempted...

markl
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If you want to try a really nice power cable, try Ensemble. If you go to www.higherfi.com , scroll down and click on cables. He has a 1.5M Ensemble Powerflux cable for $125 used, retails $300. In my system, I use the Ensemble Mega Powerflux, which is the big brother to the Powerflux, and to beat them you need to spend alot more money. I would recommend upgrading ALL power cables in your system.
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markl, i have the virtual dynamics basic power cord which i also got on audiogon for the $30 special. it indeed is very beefy, however with 18awg copper, i have a feeling there's gobs of filler in there just to simply make it fatter. as for the sound, it's nothing spectacular, although there are many people who reportedly seem to like the line of cords. the bass is bloated, yet not detailed. forward low midrange, and laid-back everything else. highs are rolled-off and masked.

i think your $50 can be better spent elsewhere. don't be seduced by a cord merely based on its size.

i really really like the Bolder Type 2 power cord. i haven't tried more expensive power cords, but these are something special. very fast sounding. airy, detailed, and makes everything else seem sluggish in comparison. it works extremely well in my system.

the Bolder Type 1 is also a good cable, but not as good as the Type 2.
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Thanks Moo. I'm reluctant to spend more than $50 on something as esoteric (to me) as a power cord, so I was hopeful that this was "the one".

markl
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Well, after some more research, I've indeed decided to take the plunge on the Virtual Dynamics cables. I have the 14-guage Power 3 coming for my Melos Maestro, and a new early version of a cryogenically-treated version of the Power 3 for $75 for my Sony SCD-333ES with Modwright mods. Apparently, this process improves the "flow of electrons" and is often found on $1000 plus power cords! We'll see....

I'll post my findings in this thread.

markl
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They arrived. Holy SH*T!!!!!!!!!!!

These things are HUGE. I know I know "size doesn't matter", but they easily weigh 5 lbs each and are 1" thick. Garden hose thickness, literally!

I assume even power cables have burn in-- how long til they're really hummin'?

markl
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Mark,

I'm eagerly awaiting your review. I need a new cable for my Cambridge D500se, and $50 is pretty much my limit. Trying to decide if I should just grab a quail cord for $10 or so.

BTW - your link doesn't work. should be www.virtualdynamics.ca
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GRRRRRR... They took over an hour to "install". These things look impressive as hell but the damn things are so utterly inflexible, it was virtually impossible for me to get them where they had to go. As it is, they're jutting way out behind my rack in full view. If i had a spouse, she would have issued the command to "send them back", and one would be hard-pressed to argue.

After I have completed my audition, I will write to the manufactuere to complain of their stiffness. Maybe it's essential to the design/performance, but It's just not practical. They've got to make it more flexible.

They better sound good! I'll let you know.

markl
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Bah, I just had a moment of weakness and placed my order. Now I'm really interested in your findings.

For the record, I'm not presently a believer in better power cables making a difference, and if the stock cable on the D500SE wasn't such a POS I never would have upgraded. So, this should be interesting....
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dcg,
When you see these things, you will agree that, to the MAXIMUM POSSIBLE EXTENT for a power cable to make a difference, these are indeed THE ONE. To say they are OVERBUILT FOR THEIR PURPOSE is the understatement of the Millenium.

I'm still listening and will take my time making up my mind.

markl
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>>>>>>
GRRRRRR... They took over an hour to "install". These things look impressive as hell but the damn things are so utterly inflexible, it was virtually impossible for me to get them where they had to go. As it is, they're jutting way out behind my rack in full view.
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This is all part of the learning curve. I purposely have not tried VD cords because I like the ones I have now, and I know I won't use stiff cords. I use bearing isolation and stiff cables are a no-no.
This is something I quickly learned after trying several AC cords.

Also stiff/heavy AC cords can put heavy strain on your IEC recepticle unless properly supported to relieve stress.
post #12 of 698
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Originally posted by markl


I assume even power cables have burn in-- how long til they're really hummin'?

markl
Power cables take longer to settle in than IC's... It could take up to a month before they become completely stable, maybe 200 hours for it to sound good.
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When you see these things, you will agree that, to the MAXIMUM POSSIBLE EXTENT for a power cable to make a difference, these are indeed THE ONE. To say they are OVERBUILT FOR THEIR PURPOSE is the understatement of the Millenium.
Actually I think that honor has to go to the custom autographed thingy that Vka uses as his power cord.
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The physical size of the Virtual Dynamics cable line is ridiculously overkill. It's just to make your jaw drop and feel you're getting your money's worth. I still believe that the size of the entire cable has nothing to do with the design, or else everyone would be making stuff the size of firemen hoses. It's a gimmick. I mean, c'mon...12awg cable, even wrapped with a gazillion shields, should not take up that kind of space. It's filler. Don't be fooled. I said the same thing when I got it. It's damn impressive, when you first get it.

All I can say is, hopefully you'll like the sound. I still conclude that my Basic Power cord is rolled off with a bloated bass. Pleasant for a few cd's, but not acceptable for the rest. Just my opinion.
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Well Moo..

The Virtual Power 3 is a 14 AWG cable that is a step up from and different than the Basic, so maybe be cautious about damning the Power 3 just yet. As for the cable's girth, maybe it's overkill, maybe it's extra shielding. No, it's not especially practical. These will be $200 when VD gets up to speed and established. I think yes you will feel that you have gotten your $200 worth. At $50 it's absurd, a bargain.

This is not my review, but let me say that nothing could have prepared me for what I am hearing straight out of the gate.

This is by far my best tweak ever. I'm excited. More to come.

markl
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