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Shunyata power cables or conditioners?

post #1 of 18
1/11/05 at 6:46am
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If so how do they compare to competitors products?
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post #2 of 18
1/11/05 at 6:47am
eyetheeth,

Don't do it.

They screw up the timing.
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post #3 of 18
1/11/05 at 6:49am
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What are you doing up so early?

OK...this is based on recent products?
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post #4 of 18
1/11/05 at 6:54am
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They are passive not active and I thought that was a 'do no harm' approach?
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post #5 of 18
1/11/05 at 6:57am
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Originally Posted by eyeteeth
OK...this is based on recent products?
BAsed on Hydra and their power cords going back few years ago.
Altho, a friend got the newer power cords and he uses 'em for the computer instead! ( guess they are still slow )

...and why are YOU up so early?
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post #6 of 18
1/11/05 at 8:30am
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'cause I'm a workaholic like you but without the gift.

So surely you have a recommendation of a company with both P.cables & conditioners and hopefully a range of products that include sub-1K items?
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post #7 of 18
1/11/05 at 3:56pm
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So surely you have a recommendation of a company with both P.cables & conditioners and hopefully a range of products that include sub-1K items?
eyeteeth.

What are you trying to improve with aftermarket cords and conditioner?

There are not truely *transparent* cables passive or active. They all have colours.

To be honest, I'm so ODed on the cables, I'm now trying to get rid of 'em.

A new find for the reasonably priced power cord that does not ruin timing is Poth Audio's Purple.
Poth Audio Purple Power Cord
Email me if you are interested.
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post #8 of 18
1/11/05 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by eyeteeth
If so how do they compare to competitors products?
I just made a change from the Richard Gray's 400S to the Hydra 6 being fed with a Copperhead 20A cord.

The Hydra is a bit cleaner and brighter than the 400S, but it's not a huge difference. The 2 extra outlets are nice however.

This is with all sources & pre-amp plugged into the conditioner and the power amp being fed directly from the wall.

This isn't a totally accurate comparison because I also had to change the cord that powers the conditioner. I had a Cardas Golden Reference on the 400S, but since you have to use a 20 Amp IEC cord on the Hydras, I changed to the Shunyata Copperhead cable.
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post #9 of 18
1/11/05 at 4:29pm
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The Hydra is a bit cleaner and brighter than the 400S, but it's not a huge difference. The 2 extra outlets are nice however.
That makes sense.

Both Richard Grey thingy and Hydra had a same sort of personality.

eyeteeth,

You know the best bang for the buck for the clean power?
Get a dedicated 20 amp. mains with a 12 or 10 guage wire. This by far was the cheapest and most effective *power* upgrade.
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post #10 of 18
1/11/05 at 5:09pm
Tried a few different Shunyata PCs, I rather like the Python. Not so fond of anything below it in their line. The Hydra loaner I tried from a local shop was pretty good, though after a direct comparison, I would rather have my BPT unit than the Hydra. I actually tried using them both at once (wall -> Hydra -> BPT -> system). It was an improvement over either single unit, but it was a very small improvement, nowhere near enough to justify the cost.
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post #11 of 18
1/11/05 at 5:26pm
For the price I would buy this Transcendent unit in a heart beat:

http://www.transcendentsound.com/power_supply.htm

Once you get a new power conditioner then it's time to play with cords. Conditioner first, cords second. OBTW, I had a Shunyata Hydra-8 and one of their power cords for about 5-months. Didn't notice enough of a change to warrant buying them, so I sent them back to the company after the loaner period ended.
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post #12 of 18
1/11/05 at 6:33pm
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Originally Posted by kuma
What are you trying to improve with aftermarket cords and conditioner?
Excellent question!
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There are not truely *transparent* cables passive or active. They all have colours.

To be honest, I'm so ODed on the cables, I'm now trying to get rid of 'em. .
Oh do I know that feeling. Satisfied, for better or worse, for the long haul on the big pieces of the puzzle (amp/speakers/cable), the power issue is like dotting i's and crossing t's for me.

Unlike all other aspects of audio, researching power cable and conditioner articles/reviews has me as unsure afterward as I was before diving into this sargasso sea. I'm quite ready to wash my hands of the slippery mess.

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A new find for the reasonably priced power cord that does not ruin timing is Poth Audio's Purple.
Poth Audio Purple Power Cord
Email me if you are interested.
Done.

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Originally Posted by Todd R
The Hydra is a bit cleaner and brighter than the 400S, but it's not a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by dhwilkin
I would rather have my BPT unit than the Hydra. I actually tried using them both at once (wall -> Hydra -> BPT -> system). It was an improvement over either single unit, but it was a very small improvement, nowhere near enough to justify the cost.
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Originally Posted by ServinginEcuador
I had a Shunyata Hydra-8 and one of their power cords for about 5-months. Didn't notice enough of a change to warrant buying them,
Wow that's quite a consensus of luke warm regard.
Very useful actually.
Maybe I will just sit pretty and cool my jets for awhile.
Thanks a lot Guys for the 3 snapshots.
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post #13 of 18
1/11/05 at 9:57pm
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Unlike all other aspects of audio, researching power cable and conditioner articles/reviews has me as unsure afterward as I was before diving into this sargasso sea. I'm quite ready to wash my hands of the slippery mess.
As I said earlier, for me, been there done that. I am not knocking what good power cords can do. I've heard a good one transformed a system, albeit you have to start with something you'll like. Any piece of wire does not make a frog into a prince.

Maybe you want to try a few. But, since you use ATC system, I know that most hi-end cables pretty much kill what you like about their kit.

Also, keep in mind that the efficacy of power conditioner varies by the quality of power you get to the house. That's why you get a polarised opinions on most power filter deiveces. A home demo is highly recommended should you decide to try one out.

I do use a Siltech power strip on occasion in computer room, because the power is not clean as in my main rig. It supresses the noise with a minimum harm to the music. BUT, if i had a choice between direct outlet with cleaner power vs. using a power filter, I know I would choose the former.

p.s. After the cable rolling, your next step is a fuse rolling. ( yes. they do make diffrences )
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post #14 of 18
1/12/05 at 1:13am
A headfier recommended the taipan power cord for my ML combo. Has anyone had any experience of it?
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post #15 of 18
1/12/05 at 2:12am
I briefly tried a Taipan w/ the Hydra loaner awhile back. The Taipan is below the Python in the Shunyata lineup, and as I said earlier in the thread, I don't start recommending Shunyata cords until you hit the Python.
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