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post #136 of 195
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Originally Posted by Genetic
When I find myself to deep in my «conceptual world», where I live most of the time to make a living, I could remember an incident where my teenage face was push on the hood of a police car not so long ago.

I knew perfectly well that I had nothing to do with what these cops were looking for and I knew (sort of at that time) that my constitutional rights were down the drain but they were four, armed, and very upset....
Oh. Sorry.
post #137 of 195
But what we're talking about it not a complete or permanent suspension. That's the important difference. Do you google search for "waiver speedy trial" or perhaps "waiver jury trial" -- we can waive our constitutional rights.

Here's another example. Cops can't come up to you on the street and search you absent probable cause. However, if a cop walks up to you and asks if he can search you and you say "yes," then he can. You don't have a constitutional argument. Unless there is an issue with whether or not you consented, you can't complain. With an airplane ticket, I think it's the same thing.
post #138 of 195
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Originally Posted by Snake
Oh. Sorry.
Dont be. When I was lying on the hood of the police car I didn't heard any zipper....

Amicalement
post #139 of 195
I'll be honest, I don't know that much about it but doesn't the Patriot Act suspend certain Constitutional rights?
post #140 of 195
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Originally Posted by elrod-tom
I'm also concerned about the pointless (and pointlessly nasty) commentary that was hijacking the thread. As I mentioned earlier, bitching about what a bunch of knuckle-dragging, perverted, racist, criminal morons these folks are is both offensive and accomplishes nothing. These folks are charged with doing what they can to stop us from being blown out of the sky when flying. While there are certainly issues that need dealing with IMHO to make that experience less of an ordeal (to say nothing of more secure), some of the stuff I was reading in here was way over the top.

The bottom line is that we need to understand how the system works, and how to work the system. Maybe that means that I don't travel with my portable stuff any more. I hope not, but if that's what it comes down to, then so be it. But we need to know...one way or the other.
Well said.

Rather than arguing semantics (yes, that's what this has boiled down to - nobody's really arguing policy or even legal points, they're quibbling over the useage of the words suspend, waive, reduce, blah blah blah, all to feel like they're right, not to actually contribute to the thread) it'd be nice if we could get more ideas from people on how to prevent this, not a discussion of how whitey keeps us down.

So far, the summary:

* Bring a self-addressed padded envelope, just in case
* Put the item in original, factory packaging
* Bring a manual, schematics, etc.
* Call ahead of time and check with the carrier (what has been the experience with this? I could see agents saying, "No, sir, that won't be allowed" for just about anything, if asked. Is it worth it?)
* Don't bring a headphone amp.

Any other ideas? Would it work to bring an invoice and try to get the confiscating agent to sign and document the confiscation to aid later recovery? (Heh, not likely!)

Another thought (which has been already expressed, I believe) is that I believe that the odds of having your Corda confiscated go way up when you've got a mint-tin amp, too. Agents are considering the big picture, and everything from how you're dressed to how you speak with them will be a factor, as will the other things you're carrying. This isn't to say a Corda (or an SR-71, or a Bithead, etc.) would ever be confiscated, but if you've got one item they're suspicious of, everything else that looks similar to it's going to be under much more scrutiny.

GS - I hope you don't take that last paragraph wrong - I don't mean to say that you had it coming, or anything. For this crowd, this is just a high possibility - we (head-fiers) are weird enough to take two amps with us on one flight, and it's a factor.
post #141 of 195
well, i guess one idea is to have your amp and other weirdo toys unscrewed and opened when going through checkpoints. that way if they have problems with it, you can take off the lid quickly and they can see there are no explosives inside.

but anyway, its clear airlines abuse their newfound power of searching. it doesn't help that there's plenty of stupid people in this world... and of course phd's aren't gonna be applying to be a searching guard person. i mean... come on... the thing has rca jacks and a iec jack. what the heck!?
post #142 of 195
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Originally Posted by Spankypoo
Rather than arguing semantics (yes, that's what this has boiled down to - nobody's really arguing policy or even legal points, they're quibbling over the useage of the words suspend, waive, reduce, blah blah blah
True, true. But we were discussing legal theory, which apparently you didn't appreciate.

As I said before, I was mentioning the legal theoretical basis of why this is wrong. Implimentation is always...something different.

post #143 of 195
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Originally Posted by elnero
I'll be honest, I don't know that much about it but doesn't the Patriot Act suspend certain Constitutional rights?
I was about to quote Michael Moore regarding the issue of Congress reading the Act to check on such things, but then, this isn't TIO so I won't get into it. To stay on topic, I just feel bad that Guru's amps got nabbed, both of them. Yeah, it's not just about the PCII - it's the terrorist-looking cmoy he worked so hard on as well. Maybe Lan's idea wouldn't be so bad after all - just hook that cmoy into the ipod and blast it as it's going thru the scanner.

Blast, as in the music volume.
post #144 of 195
So....any updates?

Did gsferrari get his amp back, or have any updates?

Anyone call TSA??
post #145 of 195
On Monday I left for Los Angeles via United. SEA to LAX. Other than the United boards being down on the luggage check-in (so I couldn't see that my flight was delayed -- bastards), everything went fine. In my carry-on I had:

Apogee MiniDAC
Presonus HP4
Xin Supermacro
Xin Supermini
Xin Superdual
Misc batteries packs
Sennheiser HD-650
Sennheiser HD-280 Pro
Etymotic ER-4P/S
Koss KSC-35
Shure e2c
Panasonic electric razor
Notebook
Tons of adapters and wires

Took off my shoes, stuffed my crap in their bins... walked through, said I had quite a bit of audio gear in my bag, the guy behind the xray machine said "okay", and then it just passed through... put my shoes back on and proceeded to the gate I needed to be at. They didn't even pop my bags open.

So anyway, I think Sea-Tac is fairly safe. I wonder what LAX is going to be like....
post #146 of 195
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Originally Posted by VitaminJosh
So anyway, I think Sea-Tac is fairly safe. I wonder what LAX is going to be like....
Unfortunately it just depends on how middle-eastern you look.

-Ed
post #147 of 195
Reading this makes me feel bad about coming to the USA (Oregon in March).

Anyone know if I will get hassled for taking an I-River PiMP?
post #148 of 195
If someone here tells me that his skin color had nothing to do with the incident is simply naive. This little incident demonstrates the severe flaws in our system.

I used to travel alot and seen airports around the world. Only in america, the airports are screened and monitored by private security company. Elsewhere, it's not airport security, but more like airport police, swat, military police, etc. This task should be given to the government officers with proper training and experience. After all, nothing really improved after 9/11. That makes me angry and furious about how the government handled our lives and resources.
post #149 of 195
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Originally Posted by BigD
If someone here tells me that his skin color had nothing to do with the incident is simply naive. This little incident demonstrates the severe flaws in our system.

I used to travel alot and seen airports around the world. Only in america, the airports are screened and monitored by private security company. Elsewhere, it's not airport security, but more like airport police, swat, military police, etc. This task should be given to the government officers with proper training and experience. After all, nothing really improved after 9/11. That makes me angry and furious about how the government handled our lives and resources.
Agreed. Other countries seem to be able to do it. Why can't the US? Racial Profiling is beautiful thing... moreso when you fail to get the race correct!

But back to the topic of amps... Wouldn't the sr71 have a chance of being safer for airport use, given the writing that's all over it? There's writing all over it, indicating what it just might be. The same goes for a Headroom Airhead/Bithead.
post #150 of 195
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Originally Posted by Edwood
Unfortunately it just depends on how middle-eastern you look.

-Ed

People who have met me in person or seen pictures will know that I look like any other middle-east / asian homo-sapien. I am bigger and bulkier than most asians and when I cultivate my rather frightening french-beard I look like prime time terrorist material

No wonder I get sh!t everywhere I take my sorry ass
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