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post #31 of 60
We are also using a totally different kind of test setup. The old measurements were an MLS test with a bit of smoothing, too. I'm sure by the time we get the final measurements up they won't be as noisy. Also look at the scales of the two tests and you'll see that the new test doesn't show THAT much difference. Also the new tests have that significant hump in the lows to mids, and then fairly noisy highs due to the sampling quantizing problems.

Still, compare the 580s and 600s to anything else and you'll see they are better. I think you fin that covering up the grills will cause a lot of resonances to develope. It might be worth covering them with a few layers of felt though. Have you ever heard of adiabatic baffles (I think that's what they are called). You can put them in speakers to reduce resonances. they are like a port but are stuffed with something like felt so that it doesn't have any resonant characteristics. It just acts to releave over presure in the enclosure.
post #32 of 60
Mike I will say yet again... You are an *******. I felt upset that someone would want to alter the frequency response of what I consider the ultimate dynamic headphone as well. I simply said "AIIIIEEEEEE!!" A reply that was humorous in a way yet uninsulting. You however chose to tell people they need lobotomy's. Not very witty or funny as it is in all actuality quite an obvious train of thought... More so for you than for most due to your psycho obsessive need to be right all the time. A trait which likens to you a perception of self worth far greater than it really is. You should definately seek out the influences of ZEN in your life. Attempting to connect with the true nature of the world will give you peace. Otherwise you will continue to have a reactionary mind like that of a small forest animal that attempts to bite you when you pull it's tale. As usual it is not a compliment to be likened to a small forest animal. Good luck to you in your quest to find inner peace.

SIONARA!
post #33 of 60

Some DID find me humorous, Aiotron

Just because YOU don't find humor in my comments, doesn't mean that others don't, Aiotron. And I'm sorry, no matter how "Zen-Like' you may consider your thought processes to be, some ideas actually are lame, harmful, and simply WRONG! As is my right, I will continue to point these out as they appear, with no apologizes! If you don't like my posts, don't read them. But I will not change my style for ANYONE.

Putting tape over the back(s) of HD-600 is among the worst ideas I've ever heard! If one wishes to have a "closed" headphone, one should purchase one! A Sony MDR-V6 would certainly sound better than an HD-600 with tape on it, and is far cheaper. HD-600s should be purchased only by those who can hear, and appreciate accurate, uncolored response. Obviously that's not everybody, or the world wouldn't be so full of Grado lovers!
post #34 of 60
Hear, hear! As Richard Dawkins says: "undisguised clarity is easily mistaken for arrogance."

Keep up the good fight, Mike Walker!
post #35 of 60
No name calling on this board please. Let's leave that behind at Headwize.

I think the idea of covering up an open headphone will cause the sound to change but not in a good way. I've tried it with my Grados and it just made them sound terrible. But, it's your dime so you do what you want.
post #36 of 60
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Mike I will say yet again... You are an *******.
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HD-600s should be purchased only by those who can hear, and appreciate accurate, uncolored response. Obviously that's not everybody, or the world wouldn't be so full of Grado lovers!
post #37 of 60

If expressing a strong opinion makes me one....

So it's expressing that Grados are colored that makes me "an *******". If so, then I'm not alone, Joelongwood. Note from my equipment list, I OWN Grado 'phones. So I do have some experience with 'em!
post #38 of 60
Thread Starter 
Just who do you think you are Mike Walker? Thank God YOU weighed in with YOUR valuable insights. You've really enriched the new site, thanks.

I feel sorry for you.

markl
post #39 of 60

Who do I think I am?

Well, my id says "Joseph Michael Walker", so that must be who I am. As for my qualifications, I'd wager that I've spent (by a factor of 2, 3, or more) more time listening to headphones than the vast majority of people here, because of the work I'm in. I honestly wear headphones 8-12 hours per day, EVERY DAY in my radio broadcasting, and audio production work. I own a production studio, do all "tracking" and mixing on headphones...prefering them for these tasks to any speakers. And clients frequently praise the sonic quality of my work, so I must know something about judging audio quality! Yes, I think spending as much time as I have listening to headphones does give me some insight. I'd be a moron if I hadn't learned something!

That's "who I am". And those are my qualifications!

By the way, am I guilty of anything more than expressing opinions? And is that not the purpose of this forum? Geez! If you take exception to my ideas, how about challenging those, and not calling names! I may word some of my responses strongly, but you will never find me resorting to name calling. THAT says far more about the name caller than about me!
post #40 of 60
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I'd be a moron if I hadn't learned something!
Unfortunately, Mike, one of the things you apparently didn't learn is a little humility. In case you don't know what it is, here's a definition from the Scholastic Dictionary of American English:
humility: modest or humble sense of one's own importance

I must say, though, you do make things interesting.
Peace
post #41 of 60

Without strong opinions........

Quote from Joelongwood: "Without music, life is a journey through a desert"

I submit that: Without strong opinions, discussion groups are a journey through boredom. That's what it's about! I make no apologies for mine, nor should you for yours.

But I'm glad I make things interesting for you. Peace, love, and all that BS
post #42 of 60
IMO the one thing that separates Mike Walker from most of the other participants in these forums is that he (usually) employs arguments and evidence, rather than parroting slogans. Furthermore, he obviously has a great deal of audio experience that many of the rest of us lack. Naturally, this doesn’t mean that you have to agree with him. But it would be far better if people would respond critically to the logic of his arguments and to the evidence he presents, instead of resorting to childish insults. Then we all might learn something.
post #43 of 60
Mika, can't you just accept that your opinion isn't shared by everyone. You don't need to run around calling people stupid to get your point across, even if you think it's funny in some odd twisted way.

I share your opinion on the flat response thingy, but I know for sure I'm not more right than people that like Grado's.

get some humility and stay away from the coffee

oh, btw, if your trying to be funny, add one of those smilie thingies (buttons on the left). you won't get misunderstood as much. just a tip.

well, back to the music people
post #44 of 60

Of course.....

Braver writes "Mike, can't you just accept that your opinion isn't shared by everyone. You don't need to run around calling people stupid to get your point across, even if you think it's funny in some odd twisted way"

Have I ever claimed that my opinions made me "more right" than people who disagree with me? Let me state now. They do not make me "more right". As I have written many times, since no headphones are perfect, it's a personal choice. It comes down to deciding which imperfections one finds least offensive. So of course I'm no "more right". But I'm certainly no less!

And as for how I should word/phrase humor, or what symbols I should use, forgive me if I choose to do these things my own way. But I thank you for the suggestion

(how was that?)
post #45 of 60
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