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post #16 of 54
hey guys... i just did the mod exactly 2 minutes ago! must say i'm very pleased. moving the drivers slightly further away from the ears actually creates a nice soundstage that wasn't there before! its worth it for that alone! comfort is extremely improved!! and the warmer sound is a welcome side effect... (tho i still find myself eq'ing the treble down a bit)

i also ran in to the problem of having the sony foam stitched to the pads... i got frustrated with trying to cut them... so i just used the round foams that came with the dt250 pads. its a little tricky, but they can cover the entire driver and will stay in place. the main difference i noticed tho is that they're noticeably thicker than the sony foams.

anybody else try this? is the sound different from the thinner sony foams?
post #17 of 54
Your DT250 pads came with foam inserts? Mine came exactly as pictured by the OP, just the velour pad "O"s without anything covering the hole inside.

I peeled the sony foam inserts off my old pads and used them on the new ones, like the OP did.
post #18 of 54
That's interesting. My pads came with a plastic piece (which go on the Beyer headphones it seems as I looked at it's manual) and circular pads also. I also ordered them from B&H.
post #19 of 54
Sweet guide! I have a very old set of V6's I got about 16 years ago, and 7506's about 18 months ago.

My V6's pleather are completely gone, I used them forever, it looked like I suffered from Black Dandruff My 7506's started to separate on the inner seal so I can see the yellow-white foam.

I am going to dig up my V6's from storage, and get 2 refoaming kits!
post #20 of 54
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Originally Posted by Duncan View Post
Nice comprehensive guide GotNoRice

Welcome to Head-Fi!!
Yes yes.
post #21 of 54

Beyer pad mod - turned up to 11

First Head-Fi post! (and it's turned into a behemoth) been lurking since November.

let me just start by saying great guide to the op, detailed step-by-step pics & instructions are wonderful. i wish i had seen this before i did mine a two months ago. oh, well.

[pics to follow at the end]

The reason for my post though, is that i too love the feel of the beyer pads, and the little extra depth that they give vs. the stock pleather pads. BUT, my biggest gripe with the v6's is that they're too shallow for my ears (sticky-outy ears i guess). the v6 are definitely circum-aural, but they cause a lot of the same pain as supra-aural headphones b/c the pads are shallow enough that the plastic presses against your ears (through the foam, but still...).

So, the other day, i was trying to think of how i could get more distance between my ear and the housing, and i stuck the original pads between my ears and the beyer pads, like a double cheeseburger. the difference in comfort was extraordinary, and the sound, as far as i could tell un-touched. now, obviously, sticking another set of pads up there is not real practical (i didn't get the pleasure of velour anymore), not to mention unsightly.

Well, looking into my little plastic bag of headphone foam and grille-cloth, inspiration struck, so to speak. i had a set of old ear pads from my brother's Direct Sound Extreme Isolation headphones (some of the most uncomfortable things you could ever put on your head, in my opinon). they're just the foam, w/o any covering. so what i ended up doing, was just stuffing the foam under the beyer pads with a plastic knife, held in just by friction. it compresses, but still adds a good amount of height to the pads, just enough that even though i can still feel the housing against my ear, it's no longer pressing or causing pain. I'm now super happy with the comfort and sound of the my v6's (though i would love to get some sweet open 'phones, and an amp... etc, etc.

but enough, rambling, here's some pics of my mod process. it's very close to the standard, but i think i have a few techniques that are really helpful for making things go smoothly.


here you can see four pieces cut off of scotch mounting squares. these help to hold the cloth steady while you're putting the pads on.


this is a piece of speaker grille cloth i cut to fit, since i didn't want to mess with the original pads and un-sew the foam


here you can see the process half way; the left pad is already turned up to 11, and the right one is the standard beyer-mod


on the v6 you can see i put in a piece of plastic i cut from a bag. this helps to keep the grille-cloth from getting ripped out by the force of stuffing the foam under the beyer pads. afterwards you just pull it out. that's the plastic knife i use to jam the foam under the pads, and the foam from the direct sound headphone pads that i stuck in my v6's. if you don't have something like these lying around, i bet you could use any old foam, like a strip of the stuff they sell to stick in between the two sashes of a double-hung window or around an air-conditioner to cut the draft.


here you can see the finished product, with the foam stuffed under the beyer pads. the gray foam is visible from an angle, but not head-on. i find that if you work one end in most of the way, then get the other end, then move to the long sides, working from their middle to the ends, it goes pretty smoothly (if that makes ANY sense). sort of like a cross pattern.


and the end result vs. one of sony's puny pleather pads. a huge improvement imo.
post #22 of 54
Damn those are beefy pads! I got to try that Are they still cushy? or kinda firm-ish now?
post #23 of 54
they are a little bit firmer, but the wonderful beyer cushiness is still there in all it's glory. the little bit of stiffness that the extra foam adds is far outweighed by the increased depth, in terms of comfort-giving, imo.
post #24 of 54
I just stumbled upon this thread since my V6's are in bad need of some new pads. But it seems the Beyerdynamic 250 pads have been discontinued. What else can I use?
Thanks,
CP
post #25 of 54
This is perfect, I have wanted to do this to my v-6's but was hoping to find some detailed instructions! Thanks.
post #26 of 54
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Originally Posted by CptanPanic View Post
But it seems the Beyerdynamic 250 pads have been discontinued.
If this information is true, it is a sad sad day in head-fi. I already did the beyer pad mod to my V6/7506, but they are starting to turn green and smell funny from sweat . I was hoping to pick up some replacements...
post #27 of 54
Hey, can I use this same kit on my MDR-V700's? I have that problem where they press up against your ears and make your ears physically hurt after extended listening. It looks like the pads attach the same way. I believe my brothers' phones are the 7506's and I noticed they have more bass than my V700's. No fair! Anyway, his factory pads keep the cans from pressing against your ears. I was thinking about having one of my female friends who know how to make clothing and such make custom ear pads for my phones... i still may since I could use neat material. hehe! But, again will this kit work on my V700's?
post #28 of 54
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Originally Posted by CptanPanic View Post
I just stumbled upon this thread since my V6's are in bad need of some new pads. But it seems the Beyerdynamic 250 pads have been discontinued. What else can I use?
Thanks,
CP
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Originally Posted by jlo mein View Post
If this information is true, it is a sad sad day in head-fi. I already did the beyer pad mod to my V6/7506, but they are starting to turn green and smell funny from sweat . I was hoping to pick up some replacements...

Has anyone confirmed this directly with Beyer? I was just thinking of doing this mod to my V6s, it would be a shame...

~Zip
post #29 of 54
Here is a response from Beyerdynamic...

The item that you are looking for is not in stock. We expect to have it by mid July.

Attached is a parts order form so I can enter it in the system if you'd still like to order it.

Celia E. Williamson
Customer Service Department

beyerdynamic Inc. USA
56 Central Ave.
Farmingdale, NY 11735

Phone: +1 (631) 2 93 / 32 00 x12
Fax: +1 (631) 2 93 / 32 88
Mobile: +1 (516) 4 73 94 88
E-Mail: celia@beyerdynamic-usa.com
Internet: www.beyerdynamic-usa.com


I uploaded the order form to rapidshare for those interested.

http://rapidshare.com/files/39670936..._FORM.doc.html

Cheers!

~Zip
post #30 of 54
I got my order in from Beyerdynamic and modded my V6's this morning. Did anyone notice these pads needing a break-in period?

At higher volumes I can hear the drivers extending too far due to lack of air pressure. If I press the headphones closer to my ears the problem goes away. I'm hoping over time they will seal slightly better.

I am glad I ordered the pads with the foam inserts. That way I did not have to cannibalize my original V6 pads.

Overall I am pleased with the mod. I can reflect on the general impressions found by those throughout this thread. I'll probably do a comparison to the original pads after a few months of listening.

~Zip

Edit: Hmm, maybe when I shave my head again they will seal better! lol
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