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post #61 of 73
4/9/02 at 8:15pm
Thanks guys. Gotta run for now, but I'll start a new thread tomorrow.

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post #62 of 73
4/9/02 at 10:43pm
When I checked with Headroom today, they only had four Cardas cables left and they advised that it could be another couple weeks or so until they get more in.

I've sat on the sideline long enough and read enough to decide that the Cardas seems to be the way to go.

Hopefully I'll also agree when I get them.
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post #63 of 73
4/9/02 at 10:57pm
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Out of the upgrade cables available fro the Sennheisser I've heard the Clou Red's and the Cardas. I preferred the Cardas. I would call it a more refined sound. Never heard the Stefans.

Lextek
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post #64 of 73
4/10/02 at 12:10am
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Originally posted by jude


In my rig -- and to my ears -- the Stefan AudioArt and Cardas both outperformed the Clou, with the Cardas earning their place as my ears' favorite of the three.
Great that settles that one...
How much is Headroom charging for the Cardas cable, right now?
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post #65 of 73
4/10/02 at 1:18am
$150+s/h
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post #66 of 73
4/11/02 at 4:50pm
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One detail no one has mentioned yet is the Cardas cable requires
significantly more gain/volume vs Clou cable. With the Max amp this is no problem since you have 3 position gain switch, I am breaking in Cardas on my Corda amp and with Senn 600/Clou cable normal listening is @12 o'clock position, with Cardas it is @3.
If your current amp requires much beyond 1-2 o'clock with Clou you may be pushing close to max volume using Cardas cable.
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Please ignore above observation, not correct

I will not report any impressions till at least 100 hrs burn in complete, but in my system the Clou was very good with no obvious faults, and the stiffness did not bother me. I must say the 1/4 phono plug on Cardas is very sweet and professional looking, but the two prong connectors going into headphones seem cheaper than Clou. These were treated with Kontak conditioner and inserted. The Cardas cable stiffness wise is right in the middle between stock and Clou cable.
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post #67 of 73
4/11/02 at 6:08pm
I didn't notice the volume issue you mentioned. I'll have to try again when my Cardas cable arrives. When doing direct comparisons, I volume match by ear, but never really notice what position the volume knob is in.

Regarding the plugs: they had to fabricate their own for this Cardas cable. The Clou uses the Sennheiser stock plugs, which also means that just aft of each Clou plug is a splice.


Quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
One detail no one has mentioned yet is the Cardas cable requires
significantly more gain/volume vs Clou cable. With the Max amp this is no problem since you have 3 position gain switch, I am breaking in Cardas on my Corda amp and with Senn 600/Clou cable normal listening is @12 o'clock position, with Cardas it is @3.

If your current amp requires much beyond 1-2 o'clock with Clou you may be pushing close to max volume using Cardas cable.

I will not report any impressions till at least 100 hrs burn in complete, but in my system the Clou was very good with no obvious faults, and the stiffness did not bother me. I must say the 1/4 phono plug on Cardas is very sweet and professional looking, but the two prong connectors going into headphones seem cheaper than Clou. These were treated with Kontak conditioner and inserted. The Cardas cable stiffness wise is right in the middle between stock and Clou cable.
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post #68 of 73
4/11/02 at 7:55pm
OPPs, my mistake I did a closer direct comparison and actually the Clou and Cardas are pretty close volume wise, not much difference. I was using a diffferent source than normal for break-in

So please ignore my comments about volume differences.
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post #69 of 73
4/11/02 at 9:17pm
As someone who's new to tweaks, could someone describe to me how to go about replacing the stock cables with the Cardas? I haven't purchased them yet, but am just wondering how difficulty and how much handwork is required. Thanks.
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post #70 of 73
4/11/02 at 9:32pm
I don't have cardas cables, but I have clous.

Basically, you grab the little triangular plug thing that sticks out from the earcup, and pull until it comes out. C'est très facile!
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post #71 of 73
4/11/02 at 9:32pm
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You simply grasp the connector where it enters the headphone and pull. Yo may have to wiggle it slightly. Then you plug in you new cables. One pin is larger than the other so they only fit in one way. Red=right. The more I listen to them the more I like the Cardas. They are worth the$$$$.

Lextek
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post #72 of 73
4/11/02 at 10:49pm
I love these things, they are liking adding an anti reflection coating to the music, with well recorded classical cd's they are a revelation, They don't hurt other music either however, I would go for them with headroom's 30 day return policy you really have nothing to lose, except the cost of shipping which was 7 dollars.
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post #73 of 73
4/13/02 at 3:57am
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Originally posted by lextek
One pin is larger than the other so they only fit in one way.
Actually, they're pretty close, so get it right. With too much force, you can get them to go the other way. Am I speaking from experience? No, I'm not that strong. Fortunately, I caught myself before I caused irreversible permanent damage.
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