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post #31 of 65
10/17/04 at 1:18pm
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Originally Posted by dffman2001
If the noise is already "in" the power, how is the the cable supposed to "distingush" noise from "pure" power?
Frequency, inductance, induced EMF's

This is reasonably simple...to detect and to remove
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post #32 of 65
10/18/04 at 6:26pm
I bought one of these myself from audiogon. $300 for a 3m Had to get an upgraded power cable to go with my shiny new power conditioner

Edit: damn you headfi! My budget is getting stretched thin for good sound, espically when im trying to pay bills.

/me goes to sell of some extra computer stuff he has

Looks like its top ramen this week
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post #33 of 65
10/20/04 at 5:16pm
I just got mine from Augiogon as well ($295 through Underwood HiFi).

My God.

You weren't kidding.

This thing is a MONSTER (take that, Monster Cable).

This thing is about the size of a very thick garden hose, and a bit stiff.

I mean...it looks like it should be sticking out of a Cray Supercomputer from the 70s or something.

I am afraid to let my wife see this...I don't think I have any component that screams "You have gone too far with this audio hobby" more than this, including the MPX3 with the bizarre glowing tubes sticking out. Heh.

Sound-wise...I am not ready to write a review yet.

Well this alien power cord obviously needs to be plugged into something more substantial that my monster 1100 power bar. Hmm.
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post #34 of 65
10/20/04 at 6:23pm
Ugh, I cant wait until friday to get mine now.

/me goes to kill things in a game to distract him
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post #35 of 65
10/20/04 at 6:59pm
Thread Starter 
its all good , tell us hows the ps audio statement treating you. anyone has noticed a massive bass increase?
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post #36 of 65
10/21/04 at 3:27pm
argh! fux you ups!
They rescheduled the delivery date of my power cord to tuesday of next week.

3 day air delivery my ass
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post #37 of 65
10/21/04 at 3:34pm

Wow.

I just received my PS Audio P300 and it's had more impact than any cable I've ever used (interconnects or power cords) - it's amazing. Now I finally understand how quality power affects every component in the chain.
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post #38 of 65
10/21/04 at 8:08pm
I've enjoyed this thread. Folks tend to not want to believe a power cord can make a difference. The cord takes away what shouldn't be there, thus giving you the sound you should be hearing. And it's hard to convince others that power cords work until you make them listen. I did a simple experiment with my friend. He could hear some of the noise floor I have in my home theater set up. I had him listen near one of the speakers to see if he could notice a difference. I powered everything off and swapped out the stock cord on a NAD T163 digital pre/pro and replaced it with a DH Lab Power AC Plus cord. Turned everything back on while he was up front. He asked me a minute or so later when I was going to switch it back on. Much to his surprise he was hearing the difference - a signficantly reduced noise floor. We tried some music and movies and the bass was taut, mid-range was nice and full. Things were dynamic. Well worth the price.

So if you're on the fence and think that power cords are bogus, I say try it first. If it doesn't make a difference to you then return it and go back to enjoying your music. But for those that have found a difference, smile and enjoy.
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post #39 of 65
10/21/04 at 8:19pm
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by NeilPeart
I just received my PS Audio P300 and it's had more impact than any cable I've ever used (interconnects or power cords) - it's amazing. Now I finally understand how quality power affects every component in the chain.
for 1495 it should be amazing...
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post #40 of 65
10/21/04 at 8:30pm

No need for curtness...

My point is though a $300 cable will benefit that ONE component, the $800 (Audiogon price) P300 will improve every component it's connected to, and every upgrade will be that much more meaningful. Having 2 sources, headphone amp and pre-amp on the same P300 is far more cost effective than a $300 cord connected to all those components (and those cords will not benefit most folk's systems as much as a good power regenerator).
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post #41 of 65
10/21/04 at 9:03pm
Thread Starter 
no hard feelings my friend...i apologize if what i said was offensive. still the thing is 800 usd is too much right now, although i am very interested .
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post #42 of 65
10/21/04 at 10:03pm
The P300 and it's doodads are good. Have you tried a power cord on it? I believe in all things power.

In my findings, I use only one outlet per duplex. The better sounding one is the one where the wire is connected on the inside. I only use my sources and low power stuff on it.
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post #43 of 65
10/22/04 at 12:47am

Clarifications...

Right now the P300 is only powering my DAC1 and I use the 2nd multi-wave II option and 118v (I tried the standard 60Hz Sin, 90Hz Sin and voltages from 115 to 120). The unit says the DAC1 is using 0 watts, however, which is curious. The most prominent change is the bass, which is quite unbelievable now. I can't wait until my balanced Zu Mobius arrives so I can plug it directly to the XLR output of the DAC1, as Iron_Dreamer has suggested. It’s strange that I can hear more changes from my Swan M200s than the HD650/Oehlbach combo (though these are soundstage improvements so perhaps it’s logical). I am still using the stock 14 gauge powercord included with the P300 and the Signal Cable High Current power cord from the P300 to the DAC1. I'm really not sure how much even better cables will improve the already excellent power the P300 produces. I may replace the Signal Cable HCPC with a PS Audio xStream Plus cable but I foresee little benefit in swapping the cable from the wall to the P300 itself.
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post #44 of 65
10/22/04 at 2:05am
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Originally Posted by NeilPeart
Right now the P300 is only powering my DAC1 and I use the 2nd multi-wave II option and 118v (I tried the standard 60Hz Sin, 90Hz Sin and voltages from 115 to 120). The unit says the DAC1 is using 0 watts, however, which is curious. The most prominent change is the bass, which is quite unbelievable now. I can't wait until my balanced Zu Mobius arrives so I can plug it directly to the XLR output of the DAC1, as Iron_Dreamer has suggested. It’s strange that I can hear more changes from my Swan M200s than the HD650/Oehlbach combo (though these are soundstage improvements so perhaps it’s logical). I am still using the stock 14 gauge powercord included with the P300 and the Signal Cable High Current power cord from the P300 to the DAC1. I'm really not sure how much even better cables will improve the already excellent power the P300 produces. I may replace the Signal Cable HCPC with a PS Audio xStream Plus cable but I foresee little benefit in swapping the cable from the wall to the P300 itself.
If you think the bass is good now, you ain't heard jack yet!
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post #45 of 65
10/22/04 at 2:11am
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Originally Posted by tiberian
a nice improvement over the zu mother soundwise, fuller bass and smoother vocals...speed and details are similar.
placebo ?
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