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That's just Audeze being Audeze pal ;)

 

Don't let their headphones ruin the whole 3rd party market for you... especially people selling stuff on here who take care of their gear.

It didn't ruin headphones for me lol. I want a pair of hifiman he 500s. 

post #17 of 32

I know it didn't ruin headphones for you... I'm saying don't let it ruin you buying from "3rd party" markets.

 

I'm glad you are considering the 500. It is simply fantastic.

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You know what they say about taking first impressions with a grain of salt? Well...I'm starting to appreciate the ESP950 more. Its sound seems to have changed a bit...perhaps from the amp/headphones charging up? (It is high voltage, after all.) I don't know. It seems more full and less thin than it was a few hours ago, with harder-hitting, more expressive dynamics too. Really weird... I like it with all music now. Could it be possible that nothing actually changed and my brain merely adjusted to the sound signature? Maybe...but I think it did change somehow. Going from my laptop's DAC to the Schiit Fulla as DAC further improved the sound. Still...I like the KTX more overall no matter how much better the ESP's technical performance is.

 

(But there's no doubt the ESP is a far superior headphone. On plenty of tracks, it's clearly better than the KTX, even subjectively and to my rather random tastes.)

 

And another update...proving yet again how you just need to listen with your own ears.

 

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The greatest compliment I can give the ESP950 is that I am tempted to keep it.

 

This is a significant statement because I go through headphones like there's no tomorrow. (Just take a look at my profile.)

 

What's odd is that over the first few hours of listening, either my perception of the sound changed...the actual sound changed...or both. Long story short, I'm a lot more impressed with it than I was at first.

 

I still think STAX is better, and the Koss KTXPRO1 (one of their semi-open dynamic driver models ~$20) is often more exciting/enjoyable for me...but the ESP is an interesting twist on the electrostatic sound I know and love. I might not want to let go of this unique sound signature.

 

I also love how light and comfortable it is. Feels like some sort of alien leaf. (In a good way.) haha


Edited by Music Alchemist - 3/20/17 at 8:10pm
post #19 of 32

If you want a nice pair of HE-500s,PM me,I might be willing to let mine go.you can check my trader feedback here on Head-Fi...no Amazon BS to deal with. 

post #20 of 32

@Music Alchemist keep us posted on burn in, be it brain or physical.  I just got the ESP950 in, and am enjoying them for their relaxing but musical sound.  I'll be listening for changes as they're used. 

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If you want a nice pair of HE-500s,PM me,I might be willing to let mine go.you can check my trader feedback here on Head-Fi...no Amazon BS to deal with. 

Sorry, not in the market. I just spent a ton on earphones. I'm just thinking about down the road right now.

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@Music Alchemist keep us posted on burn in, be it brain or physical.  I just got the ESP950 in, and am enjoying them for their relaxing but musical sound.  I'll be listening for changes as they're used. 

 

Oh, that's cool that you got one too, and on the same day as me. I've grown to like it enough to probably keep it.

 

I've tested it with all sorts of music today and noticed that it can be surprisingly dynamic and punchy with some tracks, then really soft and gentle with others, when I would have expected it to be more consistent, because there's strong dynamics in all of those tracks. Instead of being upset about it, it just makes me more intrigued. But it's certainly not a good choice for someone who wants the most visceral impact. I can only imagine how epic your HE6 sounds. (I was only able to audition that headphone in stock form on a 430HAD.)

post #23 of 32

Yeah, I ordered them from Amazon yesterday for $650 with Free One Day shiping.  Lol, I just looked at the link and the price is no $50 dollars cheaper!  I'm going to have to message them to see if I can be reimbursed the difference.  

 

https://www.amazon.com/Koss-160416-ESP-950-Electrostatic-Stereophone/dp/B000056ULH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1490077517&sr=8-1&keywords=esp950

 

HE-6=audiophile basshead driven properly.  It's got incredible punch and dynamics, while maintaining a cohesive frequency response.  I still need to hear the Utopia as that's supposed to be the next logical step, but we'll see.  My HE-6 is also modded to my tastes, and I've done extensive testing to get the sound just how I want it.  

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Yeah, I ordered them from Amazon yesterday for $650 with Free One Day shiping.  Lol, I just looked at the link and the price is no $50 dollars cheaper!  I'm going to have to message them to see if I can be reimbursed the difference.

 

Ah, crap, I'm in the same boat...and I just tried. They told me they don't price match since the prices are constantly changing. Oh well. It's still way off the $1,000 MSRP.

post #25 of 32

I am returning mine and ordered another set.  Return shipping is $10.07 so I still get $41.26 back.  Worth it for me.  

post #26 of 32
I very much liked the Koss ESP-950s I heard and thought about maybe getting them. Then I listened to some STAX Lamda's.... smily_headphones1.gif An SR-L500 is absolutely my next headphone to get now...
Edited by VRacer-111 - 3/21/17 at 12:13am
post #27 of 32
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I very much liked the Koss ESP-950s I heard and thought about maybe getting them. Then I listened to some STAX Lamda's.... smily_headphones1.gif An SR-L500 is absolutely my next headphone to get now...

 

I came across a good deal on an SR-207, which I used to own...but since I already got the ESP and enjoy its unique sound, I'll probably let someone else snatch up the STAX.

 

...haha...this thread has become so random. I hope the OP is able to make a decision when the time comes!

post #28 of 32
First impressions can indeed be suspect, I've definitely changed my mind with time (whether it is burn in or brain burn in) on different headphones and other gear.
If dynamic is a big criteria, the Elear is really strong in this respect (But not so much in soundstage, and is rolled off on top). Either folks dislike them or love them passionately.

(always best to audition, of course).
post #29 of 32
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First impressions can indeed be suspect, I've definitely changed my mind with time (whether it is burn in or brain burn in) on different headphones and other gear.
If dynamic is a big criteria, the Elear is really strong in this respect (But not so much in soundstage, and is rolled off on top). Either folks dislike them or love them passionately.

(always best to audition, of course).

 

Yeah, the Elear is one of my favorite headphones for softer recordings because it sounds so gorgeous...but I didn't love it with more aggressive music. It was too polite for me to be a good all-rounder. I still liked it with everything, but at that price, I have to adore it with everything to justify keeping it. (And I did equalize it.)


Edited by Music Alchemist - 3/21/17 at 10:52am
post #30 of 32
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First impressions can indeed be suspect, I've definitely changed my mind with time (whether it is burn in or brain burn in) on different headphones and other gear.

If dynamic is a big criteria, the Elear is really strong in this respect (But not so much in soundstage, and is rolled off on top). Either folks dislike them or love them passionately.


(always best to audition, of course).

Yeah, the Elear is one of my favorite headphones for softer recordings because it sounds so gorgeous...but I didn't love it with more aggressive music. It was too polite for me to be a good all-rounder. I still liked it with everything, but at that price, I have to adore it with everything to justify keeping it. (And I did equalize it.)

Interesting, polite is not the description I would have for them, we all hear so differently (too dynamic is often the complaint...)
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