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Originally Posted by UntilThen View Post

Very nice @hypnos1
 that's what I call a dedicated digital music source and a classy one at 1650 pounds of Naim quality. 3 other models above it are all in one unit.

Sure does look very matching with the Euforia. Congrats ! bigsmile_face.gif  

There's even a remote control.

 

Thanks UT...but hey, you tryin' to bankrupt me totally, reminding me of those other beauties lol?!! :tongue_smile::wink_face:.

 

Thankfully, this beauty is doing everything I will ever need - not really bothered it doesn't handle native DSD...what it's doing for 'plain' ol' RedBook CD quality is almost criminal - it just shouldn't happen, given the generally held view of this standard lol (given a decently engineered recording in the first place, of course!). I had thought my "WOW" days were pretty well over by now (until Hugo 2 arrives perhaps, that is!), but listening last night to my main test album "Turn of a Friendly Card" (The Alan Parsons Project), I literally couldn't believe the difference - basically, more of everything positive we've described about our F-A amps. And one of the main things that hits you first is the amazing soundstage - it takes this wonderful aspect of the EL tubes to new heights, to say the least. I've never heard anything like it. And it brings out details in a CD recording that I never knew existed, even when previously using some pretty good gear....presumably helped a good deal by playing back via the SSD rip and direct coax out to the DAC (plus, I can't emphasise enough the difference made by my home-made pure silver coax digital cable : £15 worth of wire, run through a channel in the 'honeycomb' innard of an old piece of high quality aerial cable, and a couple of plugs....£20 max total! (how much for a bought one with much thinner wire, no doubt?!! :rolleyes:).

 

And so all in all, I can now feel much happier at my extravagant expenditure...thank the Gods!! This unit truly has opened my eyes (even more !!) to the importance of the media playback source.

And as for optical out (which, by the way DL, both my old Fujitsu Amilo and more recent Dell laptops had!)...well, this Naim just blows it right out of the water LOL!!...no comparison whatsoever...

 

In other words, I'm a very happy bunny indeed...and not just for Easter!!! :darthsmile::biggrin:...

 

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You should! You've gone a liiitle bit bonkers lately. tongue.gif

P.S. Yes, it does! biggrin.gif

 

Trust you to remind me of my recent mental aberrations O...knew I could rely on you, mon ami!! :wink_face:....CHEERS!..:beerchug:...(Why? Because my insanity is now taking me way above the clouds LOL!! And why keep money in savings that are losing value by the day?...have finally woken up!!! :biggrin::biggrin:...the Hennessy XO will just have to wait lol :o)...

post #2027 of 2126
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Thankfully, this beauty is doing everything I will ever need - not really bothered it doesn't handle native DSD...what it's doing for 'plain' ol' RedBook CD quality is almost criminal - it just shouldn't happen, given the generally held view of this standard lol (given a decently engineered recording in the first place, of course!).

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I have a suspicion that the hi-res audio stuff is only really necessary for DS DACs, unless implemented really well. The R2R, multibit and whatever Chord call their technology, DACs seem to do just fine with RedBook, (as well as the high-end DS DACs). Mind you, the prices of the DACs with exotic architectures tend to put them in the high-end DS DAC territory anyway...

post #2028 of 2126

@hypnos1 you've mapped out your upgrade path very well. I can only imagine the arrival of Hugo 2 to bring even greater sonic delights. Just make sure it's black in colour !!! :gs1000smile:

 

My own upgrade path is 'delayed' due to more urgent refurbishment of a different 'deck' and also Elise restoration. Yes my beloved first FA amp is back in Poland now for some renewal work. I'm thinking of a 24k gold volume knob with matching gold feet. :D

 

Meanwhile I can't keep my fingers from the ebay 'buy' button. It's time to dabble with some of the better 6sn7 drivers. So I just commit to these Sylvania 6sn7w. One review says that the highs will singe the hairs off your eardrums. :blink: 

 

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​For whatever reason, even though HD800/T1 are better than HD650 in audiophile parameters, HD650 just feels right. 

I agree!

Furthermore, if you add a G1217 Kameleon inline filter module, the HD650 is very hard to beat tonally.

The HD650 is great, just a little bit rolled in the sub-bass and upper treeble. The Kameleon module fills both upper and lower ends, making it much better in my opinion.

It is a pity that the Kameleon is priced so badly. I got one of the prototypes at 1/2 of the price...

post #2030 of 2126

Hello @UntilThen took a play from your book and for the last week have been using the Psvane stock tubes with Raytheon 6080 graphite plates.  I must say that this is a very satisfying combination. Sound stage not quite as promininet but a little more "personal" for lack of a better term. Everything is there and very relaxing,  no strident overtones, I would characterize it as slightly warm, but not dark.  The present chain is Sony Haps-1 Euforia out to Sennheiser 800.  Easy to listen for hours, phones are some of the most comfortable I have ever used.

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Originally Posted by connieflyer View Post
 

Hello @UntilThen took a play from your book and for the last week have been using the Psvane stock tubes with Raytheon 6080 graphite plates.  I must say that this is a very satisfying combination. Sound stage not quite as promininet but a little more "personal" for lack of a better term. Everything is there and very relaxing,  no strident overtones, I would characterize it as slightly warm, but not dark.  The present chain is Sony Haps-1 Euforia out to Sennheiser 800.  Easy to listen for hours, phones are some of the most comfortable I have ever used.


Glad to see that Psvanes are still in the running for you. Something I have to look forward to. I've been concerned that they have been laid to rest in @UntilThen's graveyard. :confused:

 

I certainly agree about the comfort of the 800s ;)

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I had wondered about the Psvane's and why you had to have them with the Euforia. I had tried them for a very brief period and moved back to the EL's , curiosity got the best of me, and decided to try them.  Did not care for them with stock russian power tubes, but remembered how much I liked the Raytheon's when I had the Elise, tried them and was very pleasantly surprised.  Next week I am going to try the K-R vt-231's with the 6080's and see if I still like them as much as I used too. Go GLen!

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Are you talking about laptops or PCs?

Many ENTRY LEVEL PC motherboards may lack optical out.

Most mid - high end MBs do have optical out.

$15 (AUD) will buy a soundcard with optical out if you don't have it on the MB.

Interesting suggestion. In my long past audiophile days I seem to remember that optical was considered inferior to coax. But seems like it might be worth a try to see if it is superior to USB. It seems to me that if "noise" from the PC's power supply is in fact a problem, optical would eliminate that. My Bimby has both optical and coax inputs, as well as the USB input I currently use.

 

My PC will remain my source, as 99% of my listening is Tidal HD. My CD collection would not justify ripping to some kind of a server.

 

Anyway, my 72-years old ears probably wouldn't appreciate a significant improvement in my source. :confused_face:

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My own experience with sources, I have found co-ax to be superior to optical and usb. On my pc I use an Asus Essence 2, a very effiecent power supply and 4 200mm fans and 4 120mm fans that are so quiet you can only hear a whisper if you are standing right near the exhaust. Sound card has it's own dedicated pwr in and the card itself is shielded from stray emi. Soundcards amp is bypassed when used through co-ax.  Mind you this is what I have  found on my own system, your mileage may vary. Thought I would write out that last part for you @pctazhp in case you did not know what YMMV stood for!

post #2035 of 2126
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Originally Posted by connieflyer View Post
 

My own experience with sources, I have found co-ax to be superior to optical and usb. On my pc I use an Asus Essence 2, a very effiecent power supply and 4 200mm fans and 4 120mm fans that are so quiet you can only hear a whisper if you are standing right near the exhaust. Sound card has it's own dedicated pwr in and the card itself is shielded from stray emi. Soundcards amp is bypassed when used through co-ax.  Mind you this is what I have  found on my own system, your mileage may vary. Thought I would write out that last part for you @pctazhp in case you did not know what YMMV stood for!


The Asus Essence 2 looks very interesting. And thanks for the heads up on YMMV. I always thought it stood for You Make Me Very-crazy :happy_face1:

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I must admit I haven't tried anything other then USB out from my PC to DAC.

Given that I'm happy with my current DAC (Grace m9xx), and it ONLY has USB input, that's not likely to change in the near future!

(OK, I don't PLAN on changing it - but you never know...)

I don't scrimp on PSUs when I assemble a new PC. Like other parts, I place importance on low noise / silent operation for the PSU, as well as quality, ripple-free power output.

My current desktop PC manages high performance AND near silent operation - the fans are only really audible during stress-testing / benchmarking, or in some games. In a typical music listening situation - with maybe 2-3 browsers open and 25-30 tabs in total, Foobar and maybe a couple of other things going on the CPU fans are just lazily rotating and most the other 5 case fans aren't moving at all.

 

I did toy with the idea of building a dedicated music PC, but decided that sort of defeated the purpose of using headphones anyway, as I would still need to be able to hear sounds from my everyday multipurpose PC.

If I pause the music I can turn the amp volume to full and I don't hear a thing through the headphones. That's good enough for me.

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Hi guys, just wanted to let you know that I'm parting with my EL11/12 collection. For more info see here: post #7954 on the Elise thread.

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Oh, and I do enjoy how the Psvane are getting some love with your setups! Back in the day when I was alone in this I almost felt crazy to externalise my favorable opinion on those. Plus, the very first pm I got when I first wrote about getting the Elise actually was

 

"don't get the chinese tubes, generally speaking they're rubbish"!😜

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Hello guys, talking about PC noise or USB noise, let me remind you of this often quoted verse...

 

"Somebody was trying to tell me that CDs are better than vinyl because they don't have any surface noise. I said, 'Listen, mate, *life* has surface noise."  :D

That's why I still spin vinyl.

 

Btw USB means Ultra Sonic Baby.

post #2040 of 2126
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Originally Posted by angpsi View Post
 

Hi guys, just wanted to let you know that I'm parting with my EL11/12 collection. For more info see here: post #7954 on the Elise thread.

 

Hello apsi, thou shalt not touch my 6sn7 and 6as7 world wide stock. Now that you are selling your EL11/12 collection, what chance have I got of selling mine? I'd have to offer free tickets to Taylor Swift's live performances to be able to sell my EL tubes now. :deadhorse:

 

 

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Originally Posted by angpsi View Post
 

Oh, and I do enjoy how the Psvane are getting some love with your setups! Back in the day when I was alone in this I almost felt crazy to externalise my favorable opinion on those. Plus, the very first pm I got when I first wrote about getting the Elise actually was

 

"don't get the chinese tubes, generally speaking they're rubbish"!😜

 

Let me tell you those Psvane are UK version and design. :bigsmile_face:

 

However I'm now more keen on Sylvania 6sn7 drivers now. They are just sweet like honey. They would suffice until @pctazhp buys me a pair of Tung Sol 6sn7gt black round plates.

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