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post #7981 of 8138
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Originally Posted by Mars Explorer View Post


My X5 III (1.1.4) takes 25sec to switch on and I'm disappointed, I expect a DAP to switch on in 5sec or less. I hope FiiO will work on this, 5sec is a must for me. I will mention the slow switch on in the negatives of my review, and the cramped UI. I will suggest in my review how they can fix the interface to let us navivate less cramped. IMO the 1gig ram might be to blame for the slow switch on, and the slowish cpu. FiiO needs to be better in these areas of spec, 2gb ram and faster CPU, stop penny-pinching FiiO, very bad, just sayin.

 

I feel really sorry for you, that you haven't got 5 -10, 25 seconds to spare, in your daily life. ( or more importantly affected by it. )

 

Perhaps you could do something useful in this 25 second period of your life....?


Edited by Rob49 - 4/21/17 at 9:24am
post #7982 of 8138
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Originally Posted by davidcotton View Post

Things are built down to cost, not up for profit margins you know :P  Just leave it on standby.
I know you had/have many expensive daps so how is this inexpensive dap sounding for you ?
post #7983 of 8138

Question from a newb, can I connect my Shure SE425 to the balanced out using a different cable? is it even worth it?

post #7984 of 8138
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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post

Oh... Don't know what to say, X7 is clearly more neutral to my ears. Like clearly, while X5-3 is clearly on the smooth and warm side. 


This can be a good thing, my favorite full over the ear headphones at this moment, Meze 99 Classics are quite warm, just saying how I feel about the sound biggrin.gif

You just admitted your headphones are warm. I rest my case.

The astellkern AK70 is definitely smooth and warm, and the Opus #1 is warm, the X5 III is neutral.

I have songs that have sharp brittle cold tones in the top end, and on X5 III they sound as cold and sharp and brittle as they've ever been.

I'll say it again, and I stand by it... the X5 III is cold and neutral, and displays all rough&sharp textures in the music without softening them, therefore it is not smooth, and most certainly isn't warm.
Edited by Mars Explorer - 4/21/17 at 9:42am
post #7985 of 8138

I'm reading through these threads like... :popcorn:

post #7986 of 8138
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Originally Posted by WayTooCrazy View Post
 

I'm reading through these threads like... :popcorn:

 

Me as well actually :D

 

i'm just having fun :gs1000smile:

 

 

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Originally Posted by Mars Explorer View Post


You just admitted your headphones are warm. I rest my case.

The astellkern AK70 is definitely smooth and warm, and the Opus #1 is warm, the X5 III is neutral.

I have songs that have sharp brittle cold tones in the top end, and on X5 III they sound as cold and sharp and brittle as they've ever been.

I'll say it again, and I stand by it... the X5 III is cold and neutral, and displays all rough&sharp textures in the music without softening them, therefore it is not smooth, and most certainly isn't warm.

 

Well, 99C is clearly warm and smooth by default, but the textures are vivid, details are incredible, and the dynamics are very good. But they are both warm and smooth. 

 

I do add some treble to them, around 18 - 21 dB of treble at times to give myself a kick of treble :veryevil:

 

I still enjoy them in their native sound a lot, sometimes I just need a kick to get me going and I'm one to love cold and sharp top ends. I think that AK70 might be even smoother and warmer than X5-3, but that doesn't make X5-3 neutral or warm, and the top end is the smoothest there is.

 

If you're talking about texture quality, X5-3 is a heaven. This is something to really love about it, how clear the textures are. If you dislike the textures of some songs, better find better songs, a DAP should resolve the textures as good as it can, and FiiO did a great job here. The textures are awesome, no matter how you look at it.  

 

For the record, my EQ curve for 99C

 


Edited by Dobrescu George - 4/21/17 at 9:51am
post #7987 of 8138
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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post
 

 

 

 

This the software with your board!? That's neat. MSI gave me SoundBlaster Cinema 2... damn.  Oh well, it is only a Gaming 6. 

post #7988 of 8138
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Originally Posted by Mars Explorer View Post

You just admitted your headphones are warm. I rest my case.

The astellkern AK70 is definitely smooth and warm, and the Opus #1 is warm, the X5 III is neutral.

I have songs that have sharp brittle cold tones in the top end, and on X5 III they sound as cold and sharp and brittle as they've ever been.

I'll say it again, and I stand by it... the X5 III is cold and neutral, and displays all rough&sharp textures in the music without softening them, therefore it is not smooth, and most certainly isn't warm.

I beg to differ. After auditioning the Opus #1 for a week and a half, I found it almost dead neutral, as do the others who have reviewed it, such as @PinkyPowers. I also find only the Cayin i5 to be a warmer signature (on the FW I tested), than the x5iii, of the ones I have heard only... I simply do not understand how you can come on here and call all those who hear different sounds than you wrong. You hear what you hear, and we hear what we hear. That said, when the vast majority hear the x5iii as warm, and you keep espousing it as neutral...well...

I would prefer to leave it at that. I am currently listening to the x5iii through a neutral filtering system on my FLC8S, and can definitely hear the slight warm tone of the x5iii, TO ME. As for the Opus? The only reason I did not purchase one as my baseline neutral DAP, was because I found a Shanling M5 cheaper.

We hear what we hear, you hear what you hear, please do not call the majority wrong if you happen to hear things differently. Just not in good taste.

Now, get back to enjoying the music!
post #7989 of 8138
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Originally Posted by Dobrescu George View Post

Me as well actually biggrin.gif

i'm just having fun gs1000.gif



Well, 99C is clearly warm and smooth by default, but the textures are vivid, details are incredible, and the dynamics are very good. But they are both warm and smooth. 

I do add some treble to them, around 18 - 21 dB of treble at times to give myself a kick of treble very_evil_smiley.gif

I still enjoy them in their native sound a lot, sometimes I just need a kick to get me going and I'm one to love cold and sharp top ends. I think that AK70 might be even smoother and warmer than X5-3, but that doesn't make X5-3 neutral or warm, and the top end is the smoothest there is.

If you're talking about texture quality, X5-3 is a heaven. This is something to really love about it, how clear the textures are. If you dislike the textures of some songs, better find better songs, a DAP should resolve the textures as good as it can, and FiiO did a great job here. The textures are awesome, no matter how you look at it.  

For the record, my EQ curve for 99C
 


Try... "Short delay Sharp RollOff" filter. This is more neutral than the others.
post #7990 of 8138

I think this debate about the X5III being warm or not is getting somewhat ridicilous, it might be the case for some that the X5III is warm for them since they might use a different reference than the other. I certainly stated my reference when I compared the X5III as being "smooth" compared to the DX80 which had somewhat of an analytical sound based from memory. I think everyone should just chill and enjoy their X5III ;)

post #7991 of 8138
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Originally Posted by ngoshawk View Post

I beg to differ. After auditioning the Opus #1 for a week and a half, I found it almost dead neutral, as do the others who have reviewed it, such as @PinkyPowers. I also find only the Cayin i5 to be a warmer signature (on the FW I tested), than the x5iii, of the ones I have heard only... I simply do not understand how you can come on here and call all those who hear different sounds than you wrong. You hear what you hear, and we hear what we hear. That said, when the vast majority hear the x5iii as warm, and you keep espousing it as neutral...well...

I would prefer to leave it at that. I am currently listening to the x5iii through a neutral filtering system on my FLC8S, and can definitely hear the slight warm tone of the x5iii, TO ME. As for the Opus? The only reason I did not purchase one as my baseline neutral DAP, was because I found a Shanling M5 cheaper.

We hear what we hear, you hear what you hear, please do not call the majority wrong if you happen to hear things differently. Just not in good taste.

Now, get back to enjoying the music!

Yes, I'm listening closely here and analyzing again, the warmth is there, mild but there, and it's annoying me. The bass bump adds to the perception.

Anyone wanna buy a FiiO X5 III Limited Edition metallic Ferrari Red? Not the normal red. I refuse to tolerate warmth of any kind in a DAC/DAP.
Edited by Mars Explorer - 4/21/17 at 10:17am
post #7992 of 8138
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Originally Posted by ngoshawk View Post




We hear what we hear, you hear what you hear, please do not call the majority wrong if you happen to hear things differently. Just not in good taste.

Now, get back to enjoying the music!

 

Agree, and i find the arrogance distasteful

post #7993 of 8138
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Originally Posted by Mars Explorer View Post

Yes, I'm listening closely here and analyzing again, the warmth is there, mild but there, and it's annoying me. The bass bump adds to the perception.

Anyone wanna buy a FiiO X5 III Limited Edition Ferrari Red? Not the normal red. I refuse to tolerate warmth of any kind in a DAC/DAP.

Lol. If you can just keep it as a nice alternative for comparisons sake. But I would bet you could sell it pretty quickly. Enjoy the music, through whatever you have, that is all that really matters.
post #7994 of 8138
Chill out people
post #7995 of 8138

@javre76 Just noticed your Avatar. Awesome!

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