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post #451 of 645
Nik,
Really beautiful system. Will you give us some impression after the burn in process? Your amps are huge! Thanks for sharing.
post #452 of 645
Hearty Congratulations, Nik!

I'm very tempted to say/write something moronic, like:
"Sigh - Drool -- Sighhhhh Droooool !!! ", etc. - but I won't.

Must say something pertinent, like: It will be very interesting to find out the optimal burn-in time. And -- if Nik is so mightily impressed by his Q010 and RP010 with barely any burn-in, it would grand to hear the combo in full bloom!

That being out of the question, for the time being, our next foray into the NYC Qualia room is shaping up to be a very exciting prospect.

post #453 of 645
nik i'm so happy everything went fine...
your setup is oustanding

j|!
post #454 of 645
Way to go Nik.

You have been the most adventurous among us and the first to own the newest, bestest and expensivest headphone gear.

Congratulations on your purchase of both the 010s.

I take the risk here to venture a guess that the 010 (the headphone) and the Linn CD12 form a partnership that portrays openess. I always had this feeling that Linn CD players sound open and binaural-like over headphones, and this coupled with the 010's treble openess*, may result in the big, open sound that you have fallen in love with.

(*note: the description "010's treble openess" comes from reading the posts here in this thread and the NY Qualia Meet thread-- I don't have firsthand experience of the Qualia 010.)

It is curious to observe that the two big British names (Naim and Linn) produce CD players that are polar opposites in soundstage portrayal when heard over headphones. The Naim CD5 that I auditioned tended to be "headstagey"; the Linn Ikemi that I later auditioned tended to be "soundstagey" (both auditioned over my T2 + Omega II).

The Naim tended to produce images that "stuck to the head". Imaging was good, separation between images was fantastic, roundness of images was surprising and truly wierd -- and you are very conscious of all the golf-ball and tennis-ball images located in precise positions around the head, close to the scalp, almost like as if you could pluck these sonic balls individually from the air in the vicinity of your head. Even hall reverberation becomes "balled-up" into sonic balls, can you imagine that! Whereas the Linn one was rather binaural-like, I lost awareness of the relativity of the images to my scalp and I heard the largeness of the soundstage -- more binaural-like, in other words. Both portrayals have their charms, and I am a fan of both.

I thought I'd mention the Naim-Linn contrast just to place in context my guess about the Linn CD12 being possibly a compatible CD player for the 010. Pairing the 010 with a "headstagey" CD player would, I venture to guess, result in a potentially fatiguing sound, what with a lively treble from the 010 and the rounded sonic balls so well formed, so near the head.
I may even venture a guess that "headstagey" CD players will sound better with the Sony R10, whilst soundstagey CD players will sound better with the Sony 010. But please take this with a grain of salt-- these are just conjectures on my part, not having auditioned the 010 myself and not being familiar with the R10.


Btw, this really is a runaway thread in terms of view counts. 18,000+ and counting! Perhaps the only other one that had more view counts was the "Post a Pic of Your Rig" thread?
post #455 of 645
Thread Starter 
Thanks man,

your are so competent and it's always a pleasure for me to read your words !!!

The RP010 gives to the Qualia 010 a very "BODY" sound, a full sound. The RP5 (even if a hibryd) has not this power. I 'm very impressioned as a SS amp can give a rich and lush sound as the RP010 do ...

Best!
Nicola
post #456 of 645
Thread Starter 
The first different I can see with the RP010 respect to the RP5 cav is a big impact, a channel separation, a more rich bass and less aggressive sound. I donot whnat to denigarte the beautifull RP5, but the RP010 is built specifically for the specs of the Qualia and you can hear this.

Just one word for the external look of this piece: the best Rudi have done, the RP010 looks like a truly hi-end gear. Not so heavy, dimensions are proportionated to the Linn player.

The amp do not produce any heat... and is perfectly silent.

Best!
Nicola
post #457 of 645
Nik,
congratulations.
It is nice to read you like your new amp that much allready.

I really like the dual mono setups. you get good channel seperation and a very low noise floor. I guess the sound is still as organic as the "old" Rudi amp?

The amp does not get warm? i always thought it is good to get the amps really hot.
that way you know they eat alot of juice(current).

A good thing rudi tamed the amp a bit. with neutral equipment you don't want too agressive components otherwise it'll be quick out of balance.

Again,
congrats and have fun.
don't forget to inform us once in a while.
post #458 of 645
Quote:
Originally Posted by philodox
Not sure what a 'lorry' is... but I want the bigger one
Lorry is the "english" word for truck.
post #459 of 645
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tourmaline
Nik,
congratulations.
It is nice to read you like your new amp that much allready.

I really like the dual mono setups. you get good channel seperation and a very low noise floor. I guess the sound is still as organic as the "old" Rudi amp?

The amp does not get warm? i always thought it is good to get the amps really hot.
that way you know they eat alot of juice(current).

A good thing rudi tamed the amp a bit. with neutral equipment you don't want too agressive components otherwise it'll be quick out of balance.

Again,
congrats and have fun.
don't forget to inform us once in a while.
I think that the RP010 do not produce "warm" because a vey massive dissipation... and my sensation is that this beast works totally "relaxed".

Best!
Nicola
post #460 of 645
I'm glad you like the amp, Nik! You must be in headphone heaven...

post #461 of 645
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nik
I think that the RP010 do not produce "warm" because a vey massive dissipation... and my sensation is that this beast works totally "relaxed".

Best!
Nicola
Then it seems it has lots of power after all.

I saw the large heatsinks on both sides.
post #462 of 645
Quote:
Originally Posted by darth nut
Way to go Nik.

You have been the most adventurous among us and the first to own the newest, bestest and expensivest headphone gear.

Congratulations on your purchase of both the 010s.

I take the risk here to venture a guess that the 010 (the headphone) and the Linn CD12 form a partnership that portrays openess. I always had this feeling that Linn CD players sound open and binaural-like over headphones, and this coupled with the 010's treble openess*, may result in the big, open sound that you have fallen in love with.

(*note: the description "010's treble openess" comes from reading the posts here in this thread and the NY Qualia Meet thread-- I don't have firsthand experience of the Qualia 010.)

It is curious to observe that the two big British names (Naim and Linn) produce CD players that are polar opposites in soundstage portrayal when heard over headphones. The Naim CD5 that I auditioned tended to be "headstagey"; the Linn Ikemi that I later auditioned tended to be "soundstagey" (both auditioned over my T2 + Omega II).

The Naim tended to produce images that "stuck to the head". Imaging was good, separation between images was fantastic, roundness of images was surprising and truly wierd -- and you are very conscious of all the golf-ball and tennis-ball images located in precise positions around the head, close to the scalp, almost like as if you could pluck these sonic balls individually from the air in the vicinity of your head. Even hall reverberation becomes "balled-up" into sonic balls, can you imagine that! Whereas the Linn one was rather binaural-like, I lost awareness of the relativity of the images to my scalp and I heard the largeness of the soundstage -- more binaural-like, in other words. Both portrayals have their charms, and I am a fan of both.

I thought I'd mention the Naim-Linn contrast just to place in context my guess about the Linn CD12 being possibly a compatible CD player for the 010. Pairing the 010 with a "headstagey" CD player would, I venture to guess, result in a potentially fatiguing sound, what with a lively treble from the 010 and the rounded sonic balls so well formed, so near the head.
I may even venture a guess that "headstagey" CD players will sound better with the Sony R10, whilst soundstagey CD players will sound better with the Sony 010. But please take this with a grain of salt-- these are just conjectures on my part, not having auditioned the 010 myself and not being familiar with the R10.


Btw, this really is a runaway thread in terms of view counts. 18,000+ and counting! Perhaps the only other one that had more view counts was the "Post a Pic of Your Rig" thread?

That's funny you should say that because my Arcam CD33T is "soundstagey" with the HD650s and Cardas cable but "headstagey" with the Zu Mobius instead. The difference between those two cables via the full monty amp and the Arcam was night and day.
The Zu was too much for me on my system and I eventually returned it.
post #463 of 645
quote
Hummm, now I have a few questions, sorry, I'm not an expert as you guys, but if my math is not wrong, with 500mW you will get around 127db with the Qualia,

Lets look at this a slightly different way.

1) These headphones have absolutely no isolation (or extremely little <1db)

2) How quiet is your home. My listening room with double plasterboard
and the walls stuffed as much as i can at night with everything unplugged
and the ventilation off is about 46db. Typically 52-55 db during the day.

3) Modern high definition recordings have a dynamic range that can
easily hit 75db.

So if you want no compression of any kind, and full dynamic range, the
peaks are going to hit 125db. Or at least could hit 125db. So you want
an amplifier that could do that without significant increases in distortion.
Now typically you would turn it 20db down, and 105 is still plenty loud.
post #464 of 645
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin gilmore
Nikola speaks

This headphones need power (!!!).

That is what i have been saying. Now you really need to hear them
on an amp that can give the full dynamic range with no distortion.

The volume knob came in.
http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/pg1.jpg
http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/pg2.jpg

All precious metals... Ultra low distortion knob definitely required.
Mr. Gilmore,

can you please give us some more specifications about that potmeter?
it looks great, but what is so special about it?
Is it hard to come by and is it expensive?

why is this one preferred to say dact or any other good stepped attenuator?

I can imagine however this one is better then the alps potmeters. i personally am not a huge fan of the alps pots(sorry Nik). I rather prefer noble or stepped attenuators.
post #465 of 645
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevin gilmore
quote
Hummm, now I have a few questions, sorry, I'm not an expert as you guys, but if my math is not wrong, with 500mW you will get around 127db with the Qualia,

Lets look at this a slightly different way.

1) These headphones have absolutely no isolation (or extremely little <1db)

2) How quiet is your home. My listening room with double plasterboard and the walls stuffed as much as i can at night with everything unplugged and the ventilation off is about 46db. Typically 52-55 db during the day.

3) Modern high definition recordings have a dynamic range that can
easily hit 75db.

So if you want no compression of any kind, and full dynamic range, the
peaks are going to hit 125db. Or at least could hit 125db. So you want
an amplifier that could do that without significant increases in distortion.
Now typically you would turn it 20db down, and 105 is still plenty loud.
Ok, how about the quietness of Nik house, sometime in Europe specially in small towns we use to ahve a lot less noise then here in a big city, not sure where he lives, but maybe his room is extremelly quiet, and his hearing does not need that much.....I'm not denying that maybe you could have one with better numbers, of course, but the one Nik has, at least will give you 127db or more at full power, and it reaches the 102db mark you mentioned (IME still too loud, with 70-80 I have more than enough), with less than the half of the power, IMO unless you have a very critical recording with a lot of transients and peaks, this is enough in most of the cases, what do you think?
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