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Wrong thread
Edited by MikeW - 3/20/17 at 12:25am
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There's a new pair of Eikon available.  (The guy is selling them because for him they are not different enough from the HD650)

 

Padauk Eikon FS

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I've put my pair on eBay too. Will have to get back in line down the road but for now I'm letting EVERYTHING go. Personal financial issues
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Before I get hell about price, trying to cover my butt woth PayPal and eBay fees.
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"Saving up for Eikon Padauk most definetely, never more eager for any headphone than this Eikon; only other interest is Stax SR-L700 possibly, on the fence yet with that lambda model."

 

Sorry for going briefly off topic (and not quoting the post I'm replying to properly). I had a Lambda a while back. At the time, the Stax headphones didn't come with an amp, just an electrostatic converter that stood between the headphones and the amp's loudspeaker outputs. The amp was a Jadis DA30 - all tubes. If I remember well, it sounded amazing.


Edited by nocturaline - 3/20/17 at 4:26pm
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Originally Posted by Hansotek View Post

Sunrise and Solstice both have an output impedance setting in that 60-70 ohm range. My working theory is that range will produce the best results. I've already tried a 100 ohm resistor, and I have 20ohm and 75ohm resistors coming this week to test. I also purchased a Project Solstice off of @DaemonSire which has 31 ohm and 68 ohm settings, and @buke9 is putting together a 60 ohm cable pigtail to test.

We're going to try and get this question answered. When all is said and done, I should be able to test all of the following:
<1ohm
10 ohm
20 ohm
31 ohm
60 ohm
68 ohm
75 ohm
100 ohm

I'm planning on offering up a detailed comparison so we can get the question answered on this damping thing, but my preliminary results have shown a noticeable difference in frequency response between 0 ohms and 100 ohms. Based on the observations @Stillhart made the other day with the Project Solstice, I am even more confident in the working theory, but there is still a lot of work left to do until we have real, proven answers.
Just ordered 2 resistors one metal film and one wire wound I hope the wire wound will fit inside the connector. Will have to wait and see both are one watt which should be plenty. Still looking at a least 5 more days till everything comes in then no more than two days to assemble it. Not real for sure if they need resistors on each side or just on the whole. I bought two just in case . I would need to know how the resistive is measured.. Is it 60 ohms to be put on the negative side for both or do they both need a resistor?
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Originally Posted by buke9 View Post

Just ordered 2 resistors one metal film and one wire wound I hope the wire wound will fit inside the connector. Will have to wait and see both are one watt which should be plenty. Still looking at a least 5 more days till everything comes in then no more than two days to assemble it. Not real for sure if they need resistors on each side or just on the whole. I bought two just in case . I would need to know how the resistive is measured.. Is it 60 ohms to be put on the negative side for both or do they both need a resistor?

You are the man! I don't know the answer to that question, but I know a guy who will. I'll send him an email and get back to you.
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Originally Posted by Hansotek View Post

You are the man! I don't know the answer to that question, but I know a guy who will. I'll send him an email and get back to you.
I just know if they in parallel they are halved and in line additive. Just not for sure in this situation.
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Originally Posted by YtseJamer View Post
 

There's a new pair of Eikon available.  (The guy is selling them because for him they are not different enough from the HD650)

 

Padauk Eikon FS


​For the $1200 he wants you might as well get a new one.

 

And as far as comparing them to the Senn 650, well, now that I have the Sony Z1R that

has significantly better imaging, resolution, and ambience than the 650, I can see how the 650 can be surpassed.

So although I have not gotten an Eikon yet, it's hard to believe they sound nearly the same. But I'll report back when I hear the Eikon.

 

Does anyone who has an Eikon have any comparisons to the HD650 or 600? Thanks.


Edited by rgs9200m - 3/20/17 at 9:43pm
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I have the HD650 and Eikon. Have heard the Z1R on multiple occasions, but not in a direct comparison against the Eikon/650.

I think the Eikon is better than the other two based purely on it's tone. Better bass than the 650, cleaner bass than the Z1R. Mids are better than the Z1R, and depending on how you like the 2k region, might beat out the 650's too. Treble is going to be preference, as I really like the Z1R and Eikon in this department, and wish the HD650 presented it just a touch better. Factor in staging, resolution, imaging, and all the other little bits and... yeah, IMO Eikon wins.

That's not to say there aren't things the 650 or Z1R can't do better, but the Eikon wins the majority of checkmarks in the comparisons. In my book anyway.
Edited by ProfFalkin - 3/20/17 at 9:07pm
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That HD650 comparison makes no sense to me. IMO, they don't really sound anything alike.

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Thanks for those comparisons.

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Who's? Mine? That was my point.
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So what do you think of the Eikon @Stillhart ? ;)

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So are they different enough from each other to justify buying both?

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