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I'm waiting for the Chinese to start making good pure BA IEM's. Not a huge fan of hybrids, the ones I've heard tend to overdo bass etc, and I'm not willing to shell out hundreds of dollars on some unknown 8BA model.. :)

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Originally Posted by anticute View Post
 

I'm waiting for the Chinese to start making good pure BA IEM's. Not a huge fan of hybrids, the ones I've heard tend to overdo bass etc, and I'm not willing to shell out hundreds of dollars on some unknown 8BA model.. :)


my new kinera bam03 dual BA ($29 from see u again on ali) are breaking in nicely--very detailed, treble-forward and energetic, plus after switching to large starline-type tips i'm able to coax quite a bit of low end, though it won't plumb the depths. i'm conscious of not overpraising these, since there may be some shiny new toy effect going on, but i do find myself reaching for them often.


Edited by loomisjohnson - 4/21/17 at 6:12am
post #8493 of 8551
would be interesting how the kinera fare with the Brainwavz B200.
post #8494 of 8551
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my new kinera bam03 dual BA ($29 from see u again on ali) are breaking in nicely--very detailed, treble-forward and energetic, plus after switching to large starline-type tips i'm able to coax quite a bit of low end, though it won't plumb the depths. i'm conscious of not overpraising these, since there may be some shiny new toy effect going on, but i don find myself reaching for them often.


Interesting! Let me know your further impressions when you've had some more time with them. Also, if you have something like ety or klipsch, I'd appreciate a comparison :)

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Interesting! Let me know your further impressions when you've had some more time with them. Also, if you have something like ety or klipsch, I'd appreciate a comparison :)


i don't have the ety or brainwavz, but i've heard the x10 and own the x5--in general the klipsch are smoother/warmer with significantly less treble extension/detail and more bass quantity, tho less bass speed. unless you're treble-sensitive the kinera is the more engaging listen. another comparo would be with the remax rm-600, a single BA which got some attention here awhile ago--from memory, the remax has comparable treble quality, but was brighter and more sibilant with a thinner note presentation, esp. at the low end. hope that helps

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I received my pair of K3 Pro as well (coming from AK audio store), ordered at the 7th Anniversary sale. The pair actually got shipped ~7th of April, same as most of the other people who ordered from different stores during the sale (so I guess it must be from the same batch). OOTB they don't sound bad, compared to the Senfer 4in1, though I'm experiencing the same issue with cutting-out on the left earpiece. Strangely enough its present with the original mic cable and the cable from my Senfer, but not with the other cable the K3 Pro came with (I know it sounds extremely strange). No problems with the right earpiece though...

 

Someone mentioned that his pair seemed not balanced correctly (right one is louder than the left one)... and I kinda feel like I'm experiencing the same. According to the person that initially reported this, it was caused by the driver mountings not being symmetrical. Mines seem symmetrical though, so am not sure if I'm imagining stuff, or they are really unbalanced. And to be honest, I don't know exactly how to test that, so I'm 100% sure.

 

Build quality seems decent, so definitely don't wanna try disassembling them to check if they came with original or fake 30017 (as mentioned in the K3 PRO topic).

 

Overall expected A LOT MORE than what I got. Not sure how to handle the QC issues ... should I contact AK Audio Store, cause I definitely don't wanna pay for shipping them back to China.


Edited by c0rp1 - 4/21/17 at 6:37am
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i don't have the ety or brainwavz, but i've heard the x10 and own the x5--in general the klipsch are smoother/warmer with significantly less treble extension/detail and more bass quantity, tho less bass speed. unless you're treble-sensitive the kinera is the more engaging listen. another comparo would be with the remax rm-600, a single BA which got some attention here awhile ago--from memory, the remax has comparable treble quality, but was brighter and more sibilant with a thinner note presentation, esp. at the low end. hope that helps


Thanks, very helpful. My daily driver is an X10, since my ety died. Let me know when you've had more time with them and got over the new toy syndrome, they sound like something that'd fit me :)

 

Oh, and how is the isolation btw?

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Originally Posted by c0rp1 View Post
 

I received my pair of K3 Pro as well (coming from AK audio store), ordered at the 7th Anniversary sale. The pair actually got shipped ~7th of April, same as most of the other people who ordered from different stores during the sale (so I guess it must be from the same batch). OOTB they don't sound bad, compared to the Senfer 4in1, though I'm experiencing the same issue with cutting-out on the left earpiece. Strangely enough its present with the original mic cable and the cable from my Senfer, but not with the other cable the K3 Pro came with (I know it sounds extremely strange). No problems with the right earpiece though...

 

Someone mentioned that his pair seemed not balanced correctly (right one is louder than the left one)... and I kinda feel like I'm experiencing the same. According to the person that initially reported this, it was caused by the driver mountings not being symmetrical. Mines seem symmetrical though, so am not sure if I'm imagining stuff, or they are really unbalanced. And to be honest, I don't know exactly how to test that, so I'm 100% sure.

 

Build quality seems decent, so definitely don't wanna try disassembling them to check if they came with original or fake 30017 (as mentioned in the K3 PRO topic).

 

Overall expected A LOT MORE than what I got. Not sure how to handle the QC issues ... should I contact AK Audio Store, cause I definitely don't wanna pay for shipping them back to China.

Have you tried reconnecting the cable? That fixed the cutting out issue with my Tennmak Pro.

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Have you tried reconnecting the cable? That fixed the cutting out issue with my Tennmak Pro.

Oh yeah, definitely ... I did some more testing, the left earpiece seems to be more loosey when connected to a cable, and it definitely cuts out, though not on a shake head for example, but if I move the cable a bit more. As mentioned, I have 3 MMCX cables - 2 that came with the K3 Pro, and 1 from Senfer 4in1 - the only cable that doesn't cause any issue is the non-mic K3 Pro one, both the other ones have cut-outs with the left earpiece. I never experienced something like that with the 4in1 though, so it's definitely not the cable, but the earpiece (just one of them).

 

Also I tried swapping the left and the right channel and the right one is definitely louder (probably by several dB) ... so not sure how to proceed now :(

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Oh yeah, definitely ... I did some more testing, the left earpiece seems to be more loosey when connected to a cable, and it definitely cuts out, though not on a shake head for example, but if I move the cable a bit more. As mentioned, I have 3 MMCX cables - 2 that came with the K3 Pro, and 1 from Senfer 4in1 - the only cable that doesn't cause any issue is the non-mic K3 Pro one, both the other ones have cut-outs with the left earpiece. I never experienced something like that with the 4in1 though, so it's definitely not the cable, but the earpiece (just one of them).

 

Also I tried swapping the left and the right channel and the right one is definitely louder (probably by several dB) ... so not sure how to proceed now :(

I really wish they would fix MMCX -  it's terrible and I've been saying that for a while now. I still think Accutone's proprietary version is the best I've experienced personally.

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Yeah, definitely an issue and not just with cheap chi-fi as I have had issues with the more lot expensive shures  and my se215 had cutting out issues from the very beginning, so annoying qc issues with MMCX occur even with established international brands and not just with unknown Chinese manufacturers

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my new kinera bam03 dual BA ($29 from see u again on ali) are breaking in nicely--very detailed, treble-forward and energetic, plus after switching to large starline-type tips i'm able to coax quite a bit of low end, though it won't plumb the depths. i'm conscious of not overpraising these, since there may be some shiny new toy effect going on, but i do find myself reaching for them often.

 

Even the lesser BAS02 is worth a punt, certainly no bass monster but a great option considering it's low price. 

post #8503 of 8551

Has the Senfer DT2 + QC issues have been fixed? Anyone recently who received a pair? I listen to hip hop and dark wave / witch house type of music so I need recommendations with MMCX. 

post #8504 of 8551
Having heard a few bad QC cases with the K3 Pro, i'm kinda glad i got it earlier before the sale. It's very likely QC went down as demand surged during the sales. Probably only this batch i guess. I don't think MMCX in general is to be blamed because of this as they're pretty reliable as long as the quality of connection / the female socket used is good.
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Having heard a few bad QC cases with the K3 Pro, i'm kinda glad i got it earlier before the sale. It's very likely QC went down as demand surged during the sales. Probably only this batch i guess. I don't think MMCX in general is to be blamed because of this as they're pretty reliable as long as the quality of connection / the female socket used is good.


​I just received a 3rd party MMCX cable and the connection is much more secure. The stock K3 cables would wiggle while connected and would spin freely like a ball bearing. The new cable is rock solid and the connection issues are gone.

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