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post #751 of 839

An honest Amazon review who talks about the hiss: https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3UDU7GX0TJCM2

 

Last a few days, I listen classical music with some silence parts from Tidal HiFi. Hiss is barely audible in the silence parts for me.

 

To everybody who can't hear the hiss: Could you guys please listen this: https://tidal.com/track/38163567 and play pause to hear difference in the sound?  If you still can't hear it, then this should be something with the personal hearing sensitivity. (If you don't have a Tidal account, Tidal HiFi has a free trial period. )

 

BTW, I fully respect who say "the hiss is there, but the amount is not a big deal" as this is completely a personal preference. But this shouldn't be in the way of denying its existence. Please don't forget that "Stephan F" reported B&O Germany says the hiss is inevitable and that it is cause by the "bluetooth connection".

 

post #752 of 839

Inner Fidelity Graphs:

 

P7 Wireless in Wired Mode: http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BowersWilkinsP7WirelessWiredPassive.pdf

P7: http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BowersWilkinsP7.pdf

post #753 of 839
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Inner Fidelity Graphs:

 

P7 Wireless in Wired Mode: http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BowersWilkinsP7WirelessWiredPassive.pdf

P7: http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BowersWilkinsP7.pdf

Wow that's really interesting.  Everyone says the P7 Wireless has more bass in wireless and wired mode, but the FR shows that the Wired P7 is at -6db at 10Hz and the Wireless P7s in wired mode is at -10 at 10Hz.  That's the ULF stuff though.

 

In general FR shows the Wireless in Wired mode with less overall SPL across the spectrum.  Wonder why everyone hears the opposite, though I know there is always a difference between measured FR and perceived FR.

post #754 of 839
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Wow that's really interesting.  Everyone says the P7 Wireless has more bass in wireless and wired mode, but the FR shows that the Wired P7 is at -6db at 10Hz and the Wireless P7s in wired mode is at -10 at 10Hz.  That's the ULF stuff though.

 

In general FR shows the Wireless in Wired mode with less overall SPL across the spectrum.  Wonder why everyone hears the opposite, though I know there is always a difference between measured FR and perceived FR.

 

 

I've never tried a wired P7, so I'm suprised with these charts since everyone says Wireless P7 has more bass than Wired P7.

 

At the other hand, graphs for P7 Wireless in Wired mode seems much better than competing wireless headsets: You can check the list here: http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-data-sheet-downloads

 

And most interestingly, P7 Wireless in Wired mode seems to have a close graph to HD-800S. Ofc not same, but close:

 

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD800S.pdf

 

Isn't it?

post #755 of 839
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Originally Posted by buyukbang View Post


I've never tried a wired P7, so I'm suprised with these charts since everyone says Wireless P7 has more bass than Wired P7.

At the other hand, graphs for P7 Wireless in Wired mode seems much better than competing wireless headsets: You can check the list here: http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-data-sheet-downloads

And most interestingly, P7 Wireless in Wired mode seems to have a close graph to HD-800S. Ofc not same, but close:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD800S.pdf

Isn't it?
hd800s sucks
post #756 of 839
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hd800s sucks

Never had or tried a HD800S, but it is a highly praised headphone in a much higher price level. So the word "sucks" may be cruel. But still I haven't experienced it...

post #757 of 839
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Never had or tried a HD800S, but it is a highly praised headphone in a much higher price level. So the word "sucks" may be cruel. But still I haven't experienced it...
True, if one wants balanced, not too much bass nor too much treble than the HD800 sounded slightly better. But cant use outdoors.
post #758 of 839

I owned the 800S and I loved it personally. Different strokes for different folks as they say.

post #759 of 839
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I owned the 800S and I loved it personally. Different strokes for different folks as they say.
loved but not loving it now?
post #760 of 839
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loved but not loving it now?

Sold it to fund a Z1R, but I will seriously consider buying an 800S again if at all possible. I just couldn't resist the big bold Z1R sound!

post #761 of 839
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Sold it to fund a Z1R, but I will seriously consider buying an 800S again if at all possible. I just couldn't resist the big bold Z1R sound!
I demoed that hp a couple of times.
post #762 of 839
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I demoed that hp a couple of times.

I take it that it wasn't your type of signature. I haven't heard it yet, arriving tomorrow so I'll know soon if it is for me or not.

post #763 of 839
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I take it that it wasn't your type of signature. I haven't heard it yet, arriving tomorrow so I'll know soon if it is for me or not.
Its nice, and physically light. For me I wont be able to use it. I am in Honk Kong, three hrs of conmuting. At home I use floor standing speakers so I am basically a portable guy.
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Its nice, and physically light. For me I wont be able to use it. I am in Honk Kong, three hrs of conmuting. At home I use floor standing speakers so I am basically a portable guy.

Gotcha, yes it isn't a portable. I know it may sound harsh, but I think anybody wearing a headphone as large as the Z1R in public would like they craved attention. I also love speakers.

post #765 of 839
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Gotcha, yes it isn't a portable. I know it may sound harsh, but I think anybody wearing a headphone as large as the Z1R in public would like they craved attention. I also love speakers.
well, we are on HF, testing gears and if no attention was drawn then whats the point.
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