LG V20 Sound Quality
Mar 24, 2017 at 12:40 PM Post #2,311 of 4,138
How will double DAC'ing work.......D is converted to A from the first DAC, the second DAC is expecting D but gets A and doesn't know what to do with it.



I suppose you could put an ADC in between the two DAC's, but that also wouldn't be connected via USB from the phone, it would have to come from an analog source.

 


Sorry, I was just kidding. I simple like the sound of the made-up term "Double DACing" which isn't a real thing. Or, maybe it is? I'm sure there are plenty of folks on this forum who would love to get stupid technical about it. In fact, I might argue that you can do a Triple Decker DAC configuration in a V20/mojo/solo sandwich and someone is bound to take me seriously.
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 12:59 PM Post #2,312 of 4,138
  C'mon give that guy a break...
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@Madcat207 tried the bands (at least not that one). Not sturdy/clean looking for my taste.

I am not sure which bands you tried, but i can say the ones i linked are plenty sturdy (to the degree i worry they are pulling the phone too tightly at times...).  I also find it MUCH cleaner than the bands going across the screen (this one holds on the four corners) or velcro that irritates when not in use.  But, to each his own.   If you want, ill see if i can get a good picture of it for reference..
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 1:17 PM Post #2,313 of 4,138
Thanks Bro!
 
ATM, its not needed. I have that Headstage 4G and a GO1K. And they are too small for bands.
 
Shifting to a dedicated DAP. Tired/frustrated of piggybacking things...still cumbersome/complicated for my taste.
 
Tried the V20 hoping for a all-in-one. And alas, its not quite there yet for me.
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 1:37 PM Post #2,314 of 4,138
OCD people cant just patiently wait until the DAC in V20 is properly burnt .They try all sorts of secondary apps from play store , all sorta Heapdhones/earphones without trying for high impedance mode .
I tried Soundmagic E80c+V20 from very beginning mostly tho i have the msr7s , the Meze 99 classics ...and FINALLY i see the V20 outdoing the DAPs .
The Mojos , the fiios , the onkyos are just ripping money off , in terms of only incemental upscaling , They just WONT do any good for the Mp3s ---Thats why they SUC.k!!!
Most 24bit vinyls commercially digutally available are to no good just upscaled cd quality and My V20 already gives me pristine CD quality from mere Mp3s .
Long live LG !!
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 2:36 PM Post #2,315 of 4,138
OCD people cant just patiently wait until the DAC in V20 is properly burnt .They try all sorts of secondary apps from play store , all sorta Heapdhones/earphones without trying for high impedance mode .
I tried Soundmagic E80c+V20 from very beginning mostly tho i have the msr7s , the Meze 99 classics ...and FINALLY i see the V20 outdoing the DAPs .
The Mojos , the fiios , the onkyos are just ripping money off , in terms of only incemental upscaling , They just WONT do any good for the Mp3s ---Thats why they SUC.k!!!
Most 24bit vinyls commercially digutally available are to no good just upscaled cd quality and My V20 already gives me pristine CD quality from mere Mp3s .
Long live LG !!


Sorry, but as much as I love my V20 it doesn't outperform Mojo. Infact when I compared live recordings I know well V20 fell flat in comparison to Mojo. With the V20 it felt like I was listening to a good sounding recording, with Mojo I can sense the space between players and can almost reach out and touch them. That's why I use my V20 on the train and listen to Mojo when I want the absolute best sound I can get from a portable device, IMO...
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 3:33 PM Post #2,316 of 4,138
Could not touch my GO1K either. But I am glad V20 is capable to a certain degree. Yep good for trains, subways and busses.

Need a good DAP though when I am out of town. When I wind out in my hotel room. As I said on my previous post. Frustrated/tired bringing around many things (amps, DACs, cables, power supply etc.), and problems on matching/synergy.

If they have not just constrained the true capabilities of V20's DAC. It MIGHT just fill in my needs. Alas, it has not.
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 3:43 PM Post #2,317 of 4,138
Sorry, but as much as I love my V20 it doesn't outperform Mojo. Infact when I compared live recordings I know well V20 fell flat in comparison to Mojo. With the V20 it felt like I was listening to a good sounding recording, with Mojo I can sense the space between players and can almost reach out and touch them. That's why I use my V20 on the train and listen to Mojo when I want the absolute best sound I can get from a portable device, IMO...

I am not talking about Flacs , Apes , i am talking about 320kbps mp3s and appreciating the incredible quality of LG v20 to bring out the 'organic' details ..likeness of which is pretty rare to find ...like the difference between the dry sound and the wet (saliva) sound from taylor swift vocal in same track .
A DAP like even fiio X7 will possibly do better than V20 if 24bits or 32bits are loaded.
Mojo is Excellent .No doubt there. FPGA , 8-800 ihm driving capability to name a few .
Just my observation
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 5:22 PM Post #2,318 of 4,138
I am not talking about Flacs , Apes , i am talking about 320kbps mp3s and appreciating the incredible quality of LG v20 to bring out the 'organic' details ..likeness of which is pretty rare to find ...like the difference between the dry sound and the wet (saliva) sound from taylor swift vocal in same track .
A DAP like even fiio X7 will possibly do better than V20 if 24bits or 32bits are loaded.
Mojo is Excellent .No doubt there. FPGA , 8-800 ihm driving capability to name a few .
Just my observation

In my experience, both do a great job with lossy and lossless music, infact Mojo makes even 128kbs mp3's sound musical!
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 6:18 PM Post #2,319 of 4,138
Lol. I check this thread periodically and it seems people keep comparing to dedicated equipment, especially mojo and Cowon. I'm quite sure those dedicated do their job and quite well. Better for the price. For phones, it's a compliment to be compared to high end headphone DAC/amps. But comparing apples to apples, well, iPhone or any other phone for that matter doesn't come close to the v20. Plus, you get the bonus of there being a full fledged OS to play around with, not to mention calls and text. I'm really hoping the v30 has a top shelf AMOLED display at the very least. Keep the same DAC or give us an AK4490. Or heck I'd probably be happy with an AK4458 if it puts out like my marantz. If I didn't have the v20 I'd probably use my headphone out on my pre pro more often. As is I've only used it twice about 5 minutes apiece and my jaw dropped at how good it sounded. I glossed over the fact their was a headphone out on 7702MKII and it sounds really good. Haven't given it e kugh time to compare to the v20, but they both just sing in my ears.
 
Mar 24, 2017 at 6:55 PM Post #2,321 of 4,138
In my experience, both do a great job with lossy and lossless music, infact Mojo makes even 128kbs mp3's sound musical!

Fyi ..I am using the BnO tuned V20 and exclusively Native LG music App (QuadBeatMode) Uninstalled PowerAmp and other music app with volume control and/or built in equalizer --- Since they affect the audio output adversely ..
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Mar 28, 2017 at 1:29 PM Post #2,322 of 4,138
Hi guys, does anyone know how to make my music files sound like of the same volume? Some are louder than others and it gets kinda irritating bumping my volume up and down haha
 
Mar 28, 2017 at 2:29 PM Post #2,323 of 4,138
Hi guys, does anyone know how to make my music files sound like of the same volume? Some are louder than others and it gets kinda irritating bumping my volume up and down haha
It depends on the application you are using.
 
Mar 28, 2017 at 4:26 PM Post #2,325 of 4,138
I am using poweramp! I tried searching for some normalizer thingy kind of app but to no avail :/
I use Tidal, which has one built in in the settings.
 

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