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post #2236 of 2321
The F3 is 98dB/mW. That means about 118dB peak, and 105dB on very dynamic music.

Unless you are using the wrong type of adaptor to get High Impedance mode,you should be damaging your ears.
post #2237 of 2321
ok maybe i have a faulty adapter but its triggering hifi mode.
post #2238 of 2321
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Originally Posted by kalpeshjain View Post

ok maybe i have a faulty adapter but its triggering hifi mode.

The impedance adaptors with an impedance added between the phone and the headphone are designed to turn the volume down. So as your LG V20 increases its output by 12dB, you may be lowering the volume back down in the adaptor by 10-20dB.

To prove this: is the headphone louder or about the same without the adaptor in normal mode? If yes then you are not helping the volune with this adaptor.

Try this: tack a headphone with a removeable cable. Remove the cable at the headphone end, plug into the LG V20 to get the medium line level mode, then plug in the headphones. If this is louder than your adaptor, you have the wrong type for full output.
post #2239 of 2321
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Originally Posted by jagwap View Post

The impedance adaptors with an impedance added between the phone and the headphone are designed to turn the volume down. So as your LG V20 increases its output by 12dB, you may be lowering the volume back down in the adaptor by 10-20dB.

To prove this: is the headphone louder or about the same without the adaptor in normal mode? If yes then you are not helping the volune with this adaptor.

Try this: tack a headphone with a removeable cable. Remove the cable at the headphone end, plug into the LG V20 to get the medium line level mode, then plug in the headphones. If this is louder than your adaptor, you have the wrong type for full output.
Ok got it. I plugged removable cable and then the ath pro 700mk2 and the sound is better than connecting the 75ohm impedence adapter. But is there any way to trigger high impedence mode i really want to see d diff between all the 3 differnt modes of v20
post #2240 of 2321
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Originally Posted by kalpeshjain View Post

Ok got it. I plugged removable cable and then the ath pro 700mk2 and the sound is better than connecting the 75ohm impedence adapter. But is there any way to trigger high impedence mode i really want to see d diff between all the 3 differnt modes of v20

There are a few ways, all listed here. Inline analogue volume control, headphone splitter with a load on one side and others.

Also routing and a registry edit can do it too I believe
post #2241 of 2321
I just got my sounmagic e80c and they just made the lg v20 sound way better. Lg v20 is for only high impedence headphones.
post #2242 of 2321
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Originally Posted by kalpeshjain View Post

i have triggered hifi mode by attaching it with an impedence adapter.
And removing the impedance adapter while listening, correct?
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Does anyone here have both the V20 and the Axon 7? I purchased an Axon 7 because I wanted to try a bit smaller phone (and one that works with Daydream) and I have been comparing the sound. I am extremely surprised that two high quality sources can sound so drastically different. Right off the bat, the bass quantity (not quality) is huge on the Axon 7 compared to the V20. A/B tests make the V20 sound very thin with much less bass impact. Treble is much more extended on the V20 and I find it more pleasant. Mids are warm and lush on the Axon 7, similar on the V20 but not quite as warm. It's a totally different sound signature for me. 

 

Volume-wise, the Axon 7 was praised for being extremely loud and "broke" the pocketnow headphone test. Well, not mine! Even on "normal" mode, the V20 has loads more volume. On my Earsonics Velvet, I have the volume one notch from max on the Axon 7. It's very odd. Supposedly there was an update that reduced the volume, which just sucks. 

 

Overall the phone seems less polished and more buggy with Tidal compared to the V20 so I am going to return it, but, I love that bass slam that it provides! Now I'm sort of undecided on what I will do. Maybe I'll try an HTC 10 again for a best-of-both-worlds approach. Anyway, just providing some info/thoughts here in case people were deciding between the two. One last thing: when playing music through the HiFi DAC on the Axon 7, the phone gets pretty warm and drains the battery quickly (via Tidal at least). I never experienced this on the V20. 

 

-Collin-

post #2244 of 2321
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Originally Posted by SeeSax View Post

Does anyone here have both the V20 and the Axon 7? I purchased an Axon 7 because I wanted to try a bit smaller phone (and one that works with Daydream) and I have been comparing the sound. I am extremely surprised that two high quality sources can sound so drastically different. Right off the bat, the bass quantity (not quality) is huge on the Axon 7 compared to the V20. A/B tests make the V20 sound very thin with much less bass impact. Treble is much more extended on the V20 and I find it more pleasant. Mids are warm and lush on the Axon 7, similar on the V20 but not quite as warm. It's a totally different sound signature for me. 

Volume-wise, the Axon 7 was praised for being extremely loud and "broke" the pocketnow headphone test. Well, not mine! Even on "normal" mode, the V20 has loads more volume. On my Earsonics Velvet, I have the volume one notch from max on the Axon 7. It's very odd. Supposedly there was an update that reduced the volume, which just sucks. 

Overall the phone seems less polished and more buggy with Tidal compared to the V20 so I am going to return it, but, I love that bass slam that it provides! Now I'm sort of undecided on what I will do. Maybe I'll try an HTC 10 again for a best-of-both-worlds approach. Anyway, just providing some info/thoughts here in case people were deciding between the two. One last thing: when playing music through the HiFi DAC on the Axon 7, the phone gets pretty warm and drains the battery quickly (via Tidal at least). I never experienced this on the V20. 

-Collin-
Axon 7 - Such a typical example of halfazzed implementation of DAC (Ak4490en -same foumd in fiio X5Iii)in a phone .
I had Same experience with Lenovo Vibe X3 (Ess Sabre Es9018k2m + Wolfson)a year back .
Edited by BrOtO - 3/18/17 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by BrOtO View Post


Axon 7 - Such a typical example of halfazzed implementation of DAC (Ak4490en -same foumd in fiio X5Iii)in a phone .
I had Same experience with Lenovo Vibe X3 (Ess Sabre Es9018k2m + Wolfson)a year back .

 

I hate to say it, but I agree. And I feel the same about their software. I was amazed when 7.1.1 hit the phone yesterday before almost every other manufacturer. But, maybe they took zero time to quality check it lol. It's a beautiful phone and hardware-wise I think it's great. 

 

Anyway on the audio front, well, it just seems way less polished than the LG. I was looking forward to a smaller phone, but alas the hunt continues. 

 

-Collin-

post #2246 of 2321
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Originally Posted by SeeSax View Post

I hate to say it, but I agree. And I feel the same about their software. I was amazed when 7.1.1 hit the phone yesterday before almost every other manufacturer. But, maybe they took zero time to quality check it lol. It's a beautiful phone and hardware-wise I think it's great. 

Anyway on the audio front, well, it just seems way less polished than the LG. I was looking forward to a smaller phone, but alas the hunt continues. 

-Collin-
A korean G6 maybe :-)
post #2247 of 2321
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Originally Posted by BrOtO View Post

Axon 7 - Such a typical example of halfazzed implementation of DAC (Ak4490en -same foumd in fiio X5Iii)in a phone .
I had Same experience with Lenovo Vibe X3 (Ess Sabre Es9018k2m + Wolfson)a year back .

Wow. They botched an asahi kasei DAC? The 4458 sounds great on my marantz 7702mkii. Couldn't justify spending another $2800 to get the 4490 in the 8802 pre pro.
post #2248 of 2321

Anyone thinking about importing the Asian LG G6? Since that one is the one with the upgraded DAC.

post #2249 of 2321
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Originally Posted by cardeli22 View Post

Anyone thinking about importing the Asian LG G6? Since that one is the one with the upgraded DAC.

Absolutely!
post #2250 of 2321

LG supposedly has improved on the sound. Interesting to see once the reviews come in. Sadly the Europeans get no love. No extra space, no wireless charging, no DAC.

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