SONY NW-WM1Z / WM1A
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Mar 28, 2017 at 8:33 PM Post #10,861 of 45,723
I can confirm 1Z is dead quiet. It is the first DAP that I observe such excellent noise isolation together with great performances in this caliber, enough to be a good analog Source into any dedicated amp. Unless you want to go high-end of end in desktop class systems
 
Mar 28, 2017 at 8:48 PM Post #10,862 of 45,723
While I would venture a guess the sound signature does not change, I think this depends on your personal criteria for SQ, and thus should IMO not be stated as fact.  What if you have a very sensitive driver and the extra gain causes the noise floor to raise to audible levels, and having a dead silent background is your thing?  SQ still not affected?  Food for thought, I guess.


It could be my XBA-3. I couldn't explain ether. I can't keep listen to music for long period with H-gain on like I used to. Feel like a have to take a break. I played same playlist.
During 100-200hrs burn-in with H-gain, I had no problem listen for many hours. With low gain, I felt like something was lacking from high frequency. The point is SQ had changed some what after around 240hrs.
 
Mar 28, 2017 at 8:51 PM Post #10,863 of 45,723
While I would venture a guess the sound signature does not change, I think this depends on your personal criteria for SQ, and thus should IMO not be stated as fact.  What if you have a very sensitive driver and the extra gain causes the noise floor to raise to audible levels, and having a dead silent background is your thing?  SQ still not affected?  Food for thought, I guess.


It could be my XBA-3. I couldn't explain ether. I can't keep listening to music for long period with H-gain on like I used to. Feel like a have to take a break. I played same playlist.
During 100-200hrs burn-in with H-gain, I have no problem listen for many hours. The point is SQ has changed some what after around 240hrs.
sound will stabilize at around 500h
 
Mar 28, 2017 at 9:33 PM Post #10,864 of 45,723
The noise floor was just an example; I'm not arguing the 1Z is not extraordinarily quiet, or that it is not completely dead silent--it very well could be.  I have no idea, and it doesn't really have any bearing on my point, which is that SQ changes are a subjective thing, not quantitatively defined.  There could be many aspects of engaging HG mode that a person may feel detracts from their listening experience, or the perceived SQ they are hearing from the device while paired with whatever they are using with it.  Case in point, I personally don't like using HG; it seems to my ears that it presents the sound more forcefully, and not as relaxed as without it, which I much prefer.  Ergo, the quality of the sound that is hitting my ears, subjectively, suffers for me when I engage the HG mode.  Make sense?


Sorry either I'm totally misunderstanding your premise or I still can't agree. SQ remains the same just louder. Is your contention that loudness is part of your determination of SQ? One argues the sound it great but it's too loud. Or the sound is too quiet to enjoy I wish it were louder. Possibly on some products you hear them distort from being overdriven? Thus the SQ is deminished?
 
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Mar 28, 2017 at 9:46 PM Post #10,865 of 45,723
Sorry either I'm totally misunderstanding your premise or I still can't agree. SQ remains the same just louder. Is your contention that loudness is part of your determination of SQ? One argues the sound it great but it's too loud. Or the sound is too quiet to enjoy I wish it were louder. Possibly on some products you hear them distort from being overdriven? Thus the SQ is deminished?

 
No worries; I don't think I can word it any more clearly or concisely, so probably not worth pursuing.  Agree to disagree and move forward.
 
Mar 28, 2017 at 9:56 PM Post #10,866 of 45,723
Your points make sense to me.. since background noise was mentioned I felt like bragging about the 1Z in response to Jason's comment. Didn't mean to take away from your comment or confuse anyone lol
 
Mar 28, 2017 at 9:59 PM Post #10,867 of 45,723
Your points make sense to me.. since background noise was mentioned I felt like bragging about the 1Z in response to Jason's comment. Didn't mean to take away from your comment or confuse anyone lol

 
All good, brother; I understand the 1Z is a fantastic piece of kit--hope you are enjoying it!  Did you end up getting it before your flight?
 
Mar 28, 2017 at 10:03 PM Post #10,868 of 45,723
All good, brother; I understand the 1Z is a fantastic piece of kit--hope you are enjoying it!  Did you end up getting it before your flight?


Sure did! Very thankful for that as it's going to make a long flight much more enjoyable. Loading song on here is a breeze too.. basically acting as a flash drive with no extra software needed.
 
Mar 28, 2017 at 10:53 PM Post #10,870 of 45,723
I am using currently H-gain on my 1A.... just louder, no changes in SQ... to aid on this feeble Fortepiano sound
 
Mar 29, 2017 at 7:07 AM Post #10,871 of 45,723
I've experienced exactly the same with both the WM1A and TA-ZH1ES. I found that high gain with Audeze iSINE 20s on the WM1A changes the sound presentation in a negative way.

I found it most noticeable with the Z1Rs on the TA-ZH1ES. On high gain they had too much of everything. On low gain volume matched everything was better balanced, with better separation.

Maybe it was all in my head, but I could consistently hear it when changing between high and low gain.
 
Mar 29, 2017 at 3:55 PM Post #10,872 of 45,723
I've experienced exactly the same with both the WM1A and TA-ZH1ES. I found that high gain with Audeze iSINE 20s on the WM1A changes the sound presentation in a negative way.

I found it most noticeable with the Z1Rs on the TA-ZH1ES. On high gain they had too much of everything. On low gain volume matched everything was better balanced, with better separation.

Maybe it was all in my head, but I could consistently hear it when changing between high and low gain.


The Audeze and Sony should be set at standard gain not high gain. It loads the amp more appropriately. High gain would be used on cans that have higher power requirements.
 
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Mar 29, 2017 at 6:44 PM Post #10,875 of 45,723
It's HERE!!!

Our actual shippable and sellable inventory is still a couple days away! Those of you with pre-orders in with us should be happy to see this progress


Very nice!!
 
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