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post #1 of 617
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Today I got my molds done for the Sensaphonic 2X-S.

It took only 2 phonecalls; one to sensaphonics and one to a local audiologist which i was referred to when i called sensaphonics, to arrange a meeting to get the molds done. Very professional and convenient.

We arranged to meet at a library in Great Neck because it was convenient for both of us. Vicky, the women who did my molds, (who was actually trained by Michael Santucci himself I was told in my original phone call to sensaphonics) showed up with her daughter at the meeting. Her daughter was about my age, 20, and she kind of just hung around as company during the entire procedure. This lightened the mood a bit, even though Vicky herself was already quite pleasant.

We walked around to the back of the library and found this little lookout place. I sat down and Vicky asked me some questions about the medical history of my ears. I told her I had had tubes as a child and I also had a slight perferation in one of my ears a few years back. She said she always likes to know about her patients before she deals with them, which seemed fair enough. She took a look in my ears first, to make sure everything was fine, which it was. Then it was on to the actual impression procedure.

Up until now, I have heard very little about there being any trouble with this procedure. Other than the occasional "remolding" I have heard next to nothing about the procedure being uncomfortable. Vicky was great. Having her daugher around eased the mood. The making of the molds was quite possibly one of the worst experiences of my life.

Like I said, Vicky was great. She was very professional and knew exactly what she was doing. But due to the fact that i have sensitive ears, this procedure was just really, really tough.

The procedure was a two step process for me. First a small tube-shaped piece of spongy material was placed in my ear, all the way in, right against the ear drum. This is to keep any of the silicone from getting stuck deep in your ear during the molding process. Before Vicky put it in my ear, I asked if the spongy material went in further than the e5's, to which she responded, "yes." Then I asked if went further than the etymotics, to which she also responded "yes." Not thinking much of it, I got ready to begin.

At first, as the sponge was inserted into my ear, it felt fine. But once the piece was fully inserted and pushed up against my ear drum (like it is supposed to be) it was extremely painful. This was no fault of Vicky's but because my ears are very sensitive. Anyone out there with sensitive ears, you heard it here first, this process can be uncomfortable.

While the spongy material rested against my ear drum, my ears were literally throbbing with pain. Then, as if that was not enough, the silicone must be injected into the ear, adding even more pressure against the surface of the ear drum. As the silicone was injected i literally let out a little "yelp" as the pain at this point was too much to bear without some form of a verbal release. I beared the pain, knowing that after this was over with, i would be one step closer to hearing the best sound in my life. It was quite terrible.

In the end, I am very glad I went through with it, as Vicky assured me it would all be worthwhile one I received the finished product. She said only one person of the many, many she has done molds for ever needed a second impression taken. The entire experience of meeting up with Vicky, her daughter, and her display of professionalism truly left me feeling as if I had just taken part in something "high-class." Despite all the pain, it felt very cool indeed.

Head-Fi officially owns me.
post #2 of 617
Hopefully you'll have no problem wearing Sensaphonics. I got my first look at them yesterday compared to the soft mold ue-10. The Sensaphonics really are very soft and pliable so that should help. The ue-10 seemed very hard with more of a texture of silcone on the underside. To be fare, I didn't see if it got softer when it warmed up but it would never be close to Sensa's soft silicone.

Hopefully I won't have the same painfully experience, but thanks for the warning. No ear problems and neither the shures nor etys cause me any problems.

I just made a phone call to get the Sensaphonics from the woman that lindrone used. I only left a message but it's a start. Lindrone conducted his test yesterday and the Sensaphonics came out favorable (I'm sure a short review from him will show up sometime soon). I don't believe his results were biased since was comparing which one was closer to the hd650/zu and not which one he preferred. I thought I'd have to wait a month but I came into some money so as soon as I can get them, I will.

Toaster22, I know you were a big fan of the shures and I like the etys, so it will be interesting to see what we both think of the Sensaphonics.
post #3 of 617
Good post Toaster, I think we've all forgotten to report the sponge insertion as part of the impression procedure in the past. The first time I got my impression done, there was a bit of pain when the sponge was pushed up against my eardrum. This is to be expected, however, the pain was just the intial insertion, once it's seated, it didn't bother me anymore.

However, it seems that in your situation it was extremely painful... sorry

Most people should not have problem with constant pain as the procedure is done, however, everyone should expect to have a little bit of pain when the sponge is first inserted.

Of course, the final custom IEM doesn't reach anywhere as deep as the impression that's done for your ears. So you should not have to worry about the IEM turning out that way, if you didn't have any problem with triflange universal tips, you shouldn't have any comfort issue with the depth of the IEM's either.

On my subsequent visits (I've had 4 impressions done now, one for my E5c mold, one for Sensa, one by the horrible audiologist UE sent me to, and another by the same audiologist that did my E5c and Sensa molds for the UE-10).... the pain just went away, I guess my ear had gotten the sponge stuffed in there before, so my body just adjusted to it.
post #4 of 617
How did the daughter look?
post #5 of 617
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lmao.

vicky and her daughter arrived in a white benz, and the daughter was very polite and tan.

hope that helps your little headphone/girl fantasy.
post #6 of 617
Ok, I'm one step further. I have an appointment for Thursday. If I paid for overnight shipping both ways, I can have them back in week from that date. I asked about color molds and she didn't recommend them unless you're trying to make a statement so I'll probably get the clear. She's trying to get some color samples for show. I'm also going with the break away cord and it's only $15 more to get the standard + a 10 foot cord.

I'll let you know how the molds go and post a short review when I get them.
post #7 of 617
Polite and tan? Man, you can de better than that! You mentioned her three times, and she's your age, her mom drives a Benz...
post #8 of 617
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Originally Posted by Wmcmanus
Polite and tan? Man, you can de better than that! You mentioned her three times, and she's your age, her mom drives a Benz...
I'm polite and tan, and I drive a Benz.....Maybe I'm her father???
post #9 of 617
Also, if we call your meeting with the audiologist and her daughter a "meet", you are hereby bound by the holy laws of Head-Fi chivalry to post pictures of the meet.... Including pictures of who went to it of course
post #10 of 617
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Originally Posted by iamdone
Hopefully you'll have no problem wearing Sensaphonics. I got my first look at them yesterday compared to the soft mold ue-10. The Sensaphonics really are very soft and pliable so that should help. The ue-10 seemed very hard with more of a texture of silcone on the underside. To be fare, I didn't see if it got softer when it warmed up but it would never be close to Sensa's soft silicone.

Hopefully I won't have the same painfully experience, but thanks for the warning. No ear problems and neither the shures nor etys cause me any problems.

I just made a phone call to get the Sensaphonics from the woman that lindrone used. I only left a message but it's a start. Lindrone conducted his test yesterday and the Sensaphonics came out favorable (I'm sure a short review from him will show up sometime soon). I don't believe his results were biased since was comparing which one was closer to the hd650/zu and not which one he preferred. I thought I'd have to wait a month but I came into some money so as soon as I can get them, I will.

Toaster22, I know you were a big fan of the shures and I like the etys, so it will be interesting to see what we both think of the Sensaphonics.
Can't wait for that detailed Lindrone review

ETA?
post #11 of 617
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Originally Posted by Wmcmanus
Polite and tan? Man, you can de better than that! You mentioned her three times, and she's your age, her mom drives a Benz...
lol. I wanted to answer the question without sounding like a jerk. I could have just ignored it and stuck with straight sensaphonics/iem info.

I have no intention of getting into a detailed description of my audiologist's daughter. Using the adjectives, "polite" and "tan" allowed me to say two nice things about her outward appearance, without being an ass. Yes, her presence did make the experience a bit more pleasant, for reasons originally stated.
post #12 of 617
Wow, sounds painful (not the part about the audiologist daughter, that part sounds not in the least bit unpleasant)--in all honesty, the process of creating my ear impressions wasn't the least bit uncomfortable, just weird--I hope the custom molds don't bother you, but like Iamdone said, the softer sensaphonics will probably help. One thing about the custom molds--they are incredibly isolating and comfortable, and that's coming from the hard acrylic persuasion--the softer silicone may even be more comfortable, I'll bet you'll be just fine.

Good luck with your Sensa's; I'll be interested in both of your perceptions--hope these work out for both of you!

I'm moving on to the UE10PRO's (I can feel the wrath of Randomperson and Wolfen as I type this )--we'll see how that works out, (either way, UE has been fantastic to work with; they've been more than fair--once I get the UE10PRO's I'll post the whole story, but frankly at present I'm just as tired talking about it as you all are to reading about it). My suspicion is they'll be great--can't wait to get them, and (hopefully) confirm Utdeep's impressions.
post #13 of 617
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Regarding the color options for the 2X-S...

During the time I was having my molds done, I told Vicky my address, that I wanted the standard 50" teflon wire, and that I wanted my earpieces to be black.

When I told Vicky about getting black earpieces she seemed a little unsure about what i was referring to at first. Since this is a new thing (the color offerings for the earpieces) It did not seem that Vicky even knew it was a choice. I would also assume that most people, especially on stage musicians, would consider it an obvious choice to go with the discreteness of the clear option. Anyway, I explained to Vicky that I wanted the black earpieces and that was that.

Two days later, I started thinking about the clear option and decided that I would rather have it clear instead.

Luckily, my molds and information that Vicky had mailed out to Sensaphonics had not yet arrived there. So production on my headphones had not yet begun.

So, today I called up Sensaphonics and spoke with Julie (I believe that was her name, if I am wrong I apologize) and asked some questions just to be sure the clear was the way I wanted to go.

I asked if the color options reveal the inner workings of the headphones (showoff the workmanship, coolness factor) I was told that they do NOT. They are solid colors, as opposed to the transparent color offerings from UE.

On top of this, i thought about the headphones collecting dust. Considering the material is silicone, (although coated in a smooth finish) i am sure the headphones will pick up a lot of dust. For this reason as well, I think the clear option would be better, as it would show less dust.

So, I decided for the reasons above to go with the original clear option.

Thought that might be of some interest.
post #14 of 617
As my audiologist pointed out, only get the colors (including black) if you want to be noticed. I'm introverted myself, so I'm not up for the extra attention of having to explain the headphones to people on the street. I just wanted something that does not look like a hearing aid. After seeing lindrone wearing them, you can't even notice the clear. Plus all hearing aids I've seen have that brownish pink color to them and stick out. These are flush with the ear. They also only have the clear cord as an option, so the black earpieces look a little weird with the clear cord. Someone had a link to the black sensaphonics.

I believe I'll do the overnight shipping, so I'll have them in a little over a week (3 weeks if I choose free shipping). For some reason if you pay in cash at this place, there is no tax, so I'm going to apply that saving to the shipping and still come out ahead.

In the meantime, I've completely lost interst in my etys. My wife gets them when I get the sensaphonics, so she can't wait either. I'm still trying to get her more involved in my hobby, but she only cares about the end result, how it sounds and the music. I guess that's what really matters.
post #15 of 617
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Originally Posted by iamdone
They also only have the clear cord as an option, so the black earpieces look a little weird with the clear cord. Someone had a link to the black sensaphonics.
True. I did see those pix of the black sensas. The more I think about it now, the more I realize that it would bother me to have the black earphones with the clear cord.

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Originally Posted by iamdone
For some reason if you pay in cash at this place, there is no tax...
Yeah, no tax for me either. It came out to $765. Paid cash.

Vicky was like "I can charge you tax if you'd like?" "No thanks."

I also expedited the process by paying a bit more for 2 days shipping (delivery time of the molds to Sensaphonics) as opposed to the regular 3-5 day shipping. Vicky also noted in my info that I need them to me before August 26'th, two days before I am leaving to go back to college, just to be sure I would receive them in time.

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Originally Posted by iamdone
In the meantime, I've completely lost interst in my etys. My wife gets them when I get the sensaphonics, so she can't wait either.
My little brother got my e5c's. He's pretty happy about that...
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