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Grado Gripes?

post #1 of 44
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I just had a look inside the grille, into the transducer housing, of my Grado RS-1s. Frankly, I was a bit disappointed.

All there really was in there was:

The wooden transducer housing/"drum"
The transducer
The cord lead direct to the transducer contacts

That's it! Just the small transducers, mounted right up front in the wooden drum, really.

I was expecting my flashlight to reveal some, well, revelatory works of technical genius or some endless chasm of electronic mystery and wonder in there, but all I found were the cord and transducer! No intricate wildness or tweaks-upon-tweaks, just a speaker element and front grille mounted in the front of the wooden drum!

Now, I'm not complaning: the sound fairly speaks for itself. I guess I am just publicly getting over the shock of it all. I mean, it looks like anyone could slap these three pieces together. Why aren't more people just slapping things like this together? Is there really that much "tweak" and knowledge invested in...that simple configuration? I mean, certainly the cost of these phones couldn't possibly come from material costs, could they?

- Matt
post #2 of 44
Well, that's what it's all about - simplicity: Good parts don't need correction.

Greetings from Munich!

Manfred / lini
post #3 of 44
I mean, certainly the cost of these phones couldn't possibly come from material costs, could they?

Have you ever thought about what research and development costs a company? These do get passed along to the consumer. This is true of any product. If Grado made/sold 10 million pairs then the cost would be less per item, but being a small audiophile company, the cost of R&D for each item is proportionately larger.

But you do get what you paid for, which in this case is first class sound.
post #4 of 44
Isn't _any_ dynamic headphone basically an enclosure, an outside cover or grill, a speaker and wire leads? From the $5 drug store special to the HD600, RS-1 and even the K1000.

I imagine the "wooden drum" design must be a bit special, along with the specifics of the "small speaker" tweakage..
post #5 of 44
I'm pleased to hear how simple the build is. Less parts, less chances for stuff to go wrong, and just less stuff for my sound to have to travel over before it sings into my ears!
post #6 of 44
Give me simple anytime!
I open up the hood of my 1978 Mercedes Diesel, and I'm amazed at how simple it really is. No points, no plugs, no condenser, no rotor, no distributer, very few wires at all. And it gets me from here to there very reliably, which I believe is the purpose of an automobile.
post #7 of 44
The more simple and straightforward, the better. After all, it is the sound you are paying for, not the parts count. Simplicty is also the magic that makes the RA-1 amp sing. As you add stuff along the way, you dilute the sound.
post #8 of 44
audio equipment isn't really priced based on parts cost, i doubt any headphone costs more than $25 in parts. (excluding stuff like the orpheus, which includes amps and stuff) What you are paying for is partially R&D as bootman said, but somehow i think headphones are more trial + error than research + development. (each company has released POS headphones) Instead, companies basically price their products based on how well they perform (not cost) and at a price where they will make the highest profits. So if Grado suddenly developed a new headphone that was way better than everything else they made and only cost 50 cents in parts, they would still sell it for more than the Rs-1. This is actually quite common in different industries- for example, in computers, P3's and Celerons at all the different speeds are exactly the same chips, with different parts deliberately disabled and set at different speeds based on what will make intel the most money...
post #9 of 44
Yes, but you can overclock a well-made low-specced CPU to high levels... Wasn't a contact lens maker convicted of massive fraud because they were selling the same contact lenses as both one-day and extended-wear?

Sigh. I want to convict some people for this.
post #10 of 44
Dayaaamn! Nice wheels joe. Some of the sharpest looking Mercs came from that generation IMO.

As far as this thread goes, I think that the audiophile tendency for plainly presented products is cool. It adds a sort of mystique and elegance to the product.
post #11 of 44
Interesting how parts cost/count seems to not matter with the RS-1, yet it's a big deal with the RA-1 amp. Is it possibly because no one can DIY a RS-1?

post #12 of 44
Beagle: just give it up, man.....go listen to your Grados and RA-1! NOW! IN YOUR ROOM!

post #13 of 44
ROFL, coolvij
post #14 of 44
at coolvij

I think we should start a new tread about how the RS-1 MUST suck from now on, since they have such a simple design!
post #15 of 44
Beagle: just give it up, man.....go listen to your Grados and RA-1

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