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We understand that some would like measurements beyond 20hz to 20khz. Part of the problem is with different recording mediums and the possible distortion that can occur. Within reason going above and below the frequency range can add to the sound due to harmonics even if you don't hear the primary frequency. But this can be a problem on some recordings. 20hz to 20khz covers most everything that is in recordings and goes beyond most content. I will ask our engineers to see what they get with further measurements but I am not sure how much value this will add to the conversation.

 

Thanks Paul, that's great to know and very helpful to understand.

I tend to only move in Hires / vinyl rip circles so perhaps I am a little unrealistic in appreciating the needs and wishes of the general populace?

About 95% of my audio is 24/96 to DSD with a minumum of 24/48 Flac's. I have a few well produced CD's but not many

It just surprised me as I just assumed that those buying a device of this calibre and price would naturally be listening to HiRes and not 'just' cd quality?

 

I think your right though in that beyond 'properly' ripped vinyl, even with the most recent publicily available options of so called 're-mastered Hi Res Studio Master type audio' there isn't that much [certainly popular] music that is recorded/produced/mastered well enough to really make the high res worth while  

These Hi Res files are often less than desirable in terms of quality - even those that have been just upscaled from 44/16 !! :/

 

20-20 is certainly fine, especially when implimented in the way that you do with the devices that you guys so skillfully create

but there are some of us who both appreciate & expereince the more [all be it subtle] emotive and dynamic benefits of high res :)

 

I have no doubts though that I would not enjoy the DX200 >less< for the 20-20 frequency response !! :beerchug: 


Edited by jon parker - 1/11/17 at 12:02pm
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I listen to 80% 24/192 of some sort and don't care for DSD. The extra bandwidth on digital helps things line up timing wise or so it would seem. Seems to get blacker and more rhythmic. Once analog, there is nothing to misalign or reconstruct. You want some internal bandwidth and short paths for things like feedback in an amp but limiting the bandwidth at the input of an amplifier (as long as no in band phase shift, which means maybe 3 db down at 50k sort of thing) can actually be beneficial. It's a nice way to combat TIM. You can not hear above 20k but you can detect differences in time associated with higher bandwidth. Those are not lost in an analog signal that may be band passed to within the audio spectrum. If you like an amp with more measures bandwidth, it's because it's a better amp, not because it's flat to 100k. If you like a speaker with more bandwidth, it's because he the tweeter is more readily following the waveform below 20k. Good electrostatics (Quads) sound as fast as anything and tend to be bandwidth limited. They all roll at (before) 20k. You can disagree but my experience with top products tells me this is the case.

 

Have you sever considered the bandwidth of the best mics? have you looked the bandwidth spectrum of your best recordings? Those super harmonics being discussed aren't there unless something in the chain is manufacturing them. That's called harmonic distortion.

 

Hesitation over specs in general is a poor way to choose equipment and bandwidth beyond the 20s is definitely low on the list. The specs consumers get to see say very little about performance and how well a device behaves under duress, even when given with static loads.


Edited by goodvibes - 1/11/17 at 4:21pm
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I have one. It is huge and neavy, but goes below 20Hz at a useful level.Checked with test tones and SPL meter :)

Please imagine placing 16 of those subwoofers in front of stage:bigsmile_face:

 

I'm going to be COMPLETELY off-topic here, but relative to subwoofer discussion (vibrations and pushing the air) and while being a diehard Howard Stern fanatic (hey now!), he (Howard) celebrated today 30 year anniversary since his Private Parts movie bit where one of his female listeners sat on the speaker/subwoofer connected to the radio while he was generating very low frequency impulses by blowing into the mic.  According to the sound bit, I think there were some very pleasurable frequencies below 20Hz :D

 

OK, back on topic of DX200 which I can't wait to get an opportunity to test!!!

:beerchug:

Now that's twisted twister! :rolleyes:

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I tend to only move in Hires / vinyl rip circles so perhaps I am a little unrealistic in appreciating the needs and wishes of the general populace?

Man I am  amazed you even come here to talk to us general populace, what with the smell and noise we make.

 

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For whatever it is worth the DX90 is rated 17Hz - 20KHz ±0.1dB.  Not to stir the pot any further than it has been whipped up :beyersmile:!

 

Cheerios for now,

Tim

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Andromeda is good choice also!

compare andro + dx200 vs andro + wm1a ?

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compare andro + dx200 vs andro + wm1a ?

If you are going to ask something to a headfier, at least make a full sentence and say please...

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If you are going to ask something to a headfier, at least make a full sentence and say please...

sorry. i'm not good english

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sorry. i'm not good english

Then at least please :D

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Please 😄
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Then at least please :D

OK. Thanks

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compare andro + dx200 vs andro + wm1a ?

 

In my opinion,  "Dx200 + andromeda" is better. It is beyond the limit of portable devices. In particular, the extent of staging is great.

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I don't think its accurate to say one is better than the other at this stage, unless it technically just blows it out of the water. I think its more flavor and what sound sig people prefer. Apples to oranges.

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Using dx200 now, feel free to ask me question. I only have dx90 before. But i brough xdp 300r and can compare to it.
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Ok, I'll bite... so just how good is it? 

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