Feliks-Audio ELISE...New thread.
May 4, 2016 at 9:03 PM Post #10,051 of 13,846
  I am using Sennheiser 800 headphones, not the new version "S" the original's.  I just changed out the Ken-Rad VT-231's for Sylvania VT-231's and the difference is palpable.  The K-R's had slightly better bass, but a little darker, the Sylvania's the highs are very good indeed.  Midrange is full and present in the right amount, I prefer these over the K-R's now.  The 6SN7's I have had and used for awhile so they are totally burned in.  The CF-Thomson's 6080 sound very good for a pair of tubes that were inexpensive.  Have just scratched the surface, of tube rolling, so will take it nice and slow.  As  far as doing a head to head with the Ember, there is no point. I reached as far as I could with the ember with dual 6L5G's, and it is nice, but this amp new out of the box is obviously better in every way.

It is really exciting to read about your introduction to Elise. Thank you so much for sharing it with us.
 
Your experience with the amp fresh out of the box and the experience of @WB2016 have inspired me to go back and listen to the original tubes.
 
May 4, 2016 at 9:27 PM Post #10,052 of 13,846
I just listened to the original cast of Phantom of the Opera with MIchael Crawford and Sarah Brightman and when she hits that last high note at the end of the song was amazing, had to run and kiss the dog, poor thing he thought I had lost my mind, oh yea, I think I have!
 
 
 
This is not the best quality but if you can find the original it is utterly uncanny
 

 
May 4, 2016 at 9:44 PM Post #10,053 of 13,846
  I just listened to the original cast of Phantom of the Opera with MIchael Crawford and Sarah Brightman and when she hits that last high note at the end of the song was amazing, had to run and kiss the dog, poor thing he thought I had lost my mind, oh yea, I think I have!
 

As many times as I have listened to Phantom it still brings goose bumps. I had a first row seat to a Sarah Brightman concert a number of years ago. So great))
 
Here's one to test your memory. Do you remember Lee Marvin? A true one-of-a-kind. Maybe this is good for burning in your new Elise )))
 

 
May 4, 2016 at 9:45 PM Post #10,054 of 13,846
It's alright to kiss the dog but dont kiss the tubes.

I'm out sightseeing today but will read all about your excitements with Elise.
 
May 4, 2016 at 9:47 PM Post #10,055 of 13,846
Changed out the RCA Grey Glass 6SN7, for the Sylvania's, a little more bass,guitar and vocals sound clear and crisp, lower volumne highs are still good, prefer the Sylvania's
 
May 4, 2016 at 9:49 PM Post #10,056 of 13,846
Paint your wagon was a lot of fun, but they had raised the price of the movies from 11 cents to 21 cents, allowance barely covered it, no popcorn!
 
May 4, 2016 at 9:51 PM Post #10,057 of 13,846
Another great song from that movie...
 
May 4, 2016 at 9:53 PM Post #10,058 of 13,846
Where you at the movies to see............  Gary Cooper?
 
Never missed an episode of this tv show..
 
May 4, 2016 at 11:22 PM Post #10,059 of 13,846
@connieflyer. WOW. Were we twins separated at birth ??? )))
 
I also really liked "They Call the Wind Maria". And loved the Kingston Trio version on their Hungry I album.
 
And for sure I very much remember High Noon, Gary Cooper and Grace Kelly. One of the first movies I ever saw - at the Senator Drive-In theater in Prescott, Arizona !!!
 
And, me too - never missed an episode of Paladin.
 
All of those are very vivid and special memories for me )))
 
Edit:  Want to explain a little more why High Noon was so special for me. It was released in 1952. My father had died 2 years earlier and my mother did everything she could to create a close family for me and my two older sisters. One of our favorite things was all going to the drive-in theater together, and that's when I saw High Noon. Thanks for a nice memory.
 
May 5, 2016 at 12:06 AM Post #10,061 of 13,846
That's completely rockin' @connieflyer - and it was me who swayed you over here. I'm glad for you, and that you finally realise this thread isn't all hype, but it's real.
 
Your 'review' of the Elise compared to the Ember is spot on too - there's almost no point in doing so. And in fact it's quite amazing considering how many times I already felt pleased with the sound of the Ember, how much further the Elise takes things. And from my many tube combinations thus far, it seems the Elise REALLY shines the best with quad powers (the instrument separation, soundstage, overall resolution, etc. all seem to really open up with the likes of quad 6J5 or 7193), though from what I hear around here it gets even better.
 
That's why I have my two dual EL3N and 6BL7 / 6SN7 adapters on the way, and will see how great this marvel really can sound.
 
And I will also be taking the Elise with this pimped-out setup this summer, to what will probably be it's first ever appearance at an official Head-Fi meet.
 
May 5, 2016 at 4:16 AM Post #10,062 of 13,846
  If it is possible, this is CRAZY good!  Fingers are giving out changing songs!

So pleased to hear this, Don.
I'm encouraged you find the stock tubes (if I've got you correctly) so good, as having to invest in lots of tubes, purchased from the USA, with all the extra charges that would entail, plus all the mind boggling combinations was, to be honest, putting me off a bit trying to get my senile head round it all.
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Could you, DecentLevi or anyone else, just in a couple of sentences maybe, explain in a bit more detail how it's sound differs from Ember?
That would be really helpful.
Thanks.
 
May 5, 2016 at 4:32 AM Post #10,063 of 13,846
Well, having just sold my Ember off earlier this week, the sooner the better for any comparison before memory gets any hazier 
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Well about the only thing that remains unchanged is the FR; that is, the ability to reproduce the highest to the lowest frequency. Otherwize:
Impact, soundstage: 40% better. Lifelike / organic sound along with overall resolution / fidelity: 250% better. Instrument separation: 100% better. Bass definition: 100% better. 
 
 
But that's just IMO, and I've still yet to reach the summit of TOTL tubes with the Elise.
OTOH, @connieflyer do you still have your Ember so you can do a little head-to-head - just to humor us anyway?
 
May 5, 2016 at 5:21 AM Post #10,064 of 13,846
  Well, having just sold my Ember off earlier this week, the sooner the better for any comparison before memory gets any hazier 
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Well about the only thing that remains unchanged is the FR; that is, the ability to reproduce the highest to the lowest frequency. Otherwize:
Impact, soundstage: 40% better. Lifelike / organic sound along with overall resolution / fidelity: 250% better. Instrument separation: 100% better. Bass definition: 100% better. 
 
 
But that's just IMO, and I've still yet to reach the summit of TOTL tubes with the Elise.
OTOH, @connieflyer do you still have your Ember so you can do a little head-to-head - just to humor us anyway?

That's really helpful, especially as we usually hear things the same, even with different musical tastes
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. Yes, indeed, let's hope connieflyer still has his Ember!!
 
Incidently, those Russian tubes you mentioned a few posts back I'm told can be very good. A friend has an amp which uses one and he loves the sound. I've also read positive things about them on the Crack forums. There are two versions, one the 6N5S, which has the same gain as the usual 6AS7 tubes, and a 6N13S which has a slightly higher gain, but when adjusted for volume both sound similar.
 
Thanks again.
 
May 5, 2016 at 5:32 AM Post #10,065 of 13,846
I haven't owned 6AS7 or 6N13S, but I think you also have quite enough 6J5 tubes to make the Elise really sing with 4 in the back (you just need one more dual adapter Howie). 
Actually don't be so sure we have a different taste in music 
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 Since getting the Elise I'm starting to like not only electronic and retro, but also more analogue / percussive music like classic rock, soft rock, and pop too. As this thread's members seem to agree, the sign of a good amp is it's ability to get you to appreciate music you wouldn't normally listen to... I find myself being lulled into genres that were unspeakable for me to listen in the past, just simply for the sonic attributes / recording quality / aural scene and eventually start coming around to the vibe too. It's a transportation device of sorts... Now where is @UntilThen to help out with the above....?
 
EDIT: Oh yeah I have the GE 6AS7GA but it's so outdone by quad tubes I strain to even recall having it around 
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