benny-x said:

  It's really funny to read these posts after I hopped back a few pages to get some more dets on these. This is EXACTLY what I was wondering about. Seems my "hmmmmmmm~" wasn't off the mark.
 
The posts talking about how it's much better the new style headband was have always made me wonder how it was possible. Now finding it's available as a spare for $200USD made me wonder even more. Maybe I'd like one?
 
See I'm actually not a hater of the current headband, I had my LCD-2.2s on last night for 3 hours, no problem. But sure I'd be happy to find something even more comfortable than the Vegan pads and headband I've got. I just don't see how the flat piece of thick, soft leather against the carbon fibre strip is going to be better than thin leather wrapped foam, with a metal band in it. What I do think, is that that guy selling leather suspension setups in the For Sale forums isn't going to need to worry about being out of business.

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All Audeze has to do, to make the new headband work, is to shorten the leather strap a little bit.
HiFiMan had the same problem with their headband straps, and they released an updated strap pretty promptly.  Let see if Audeze will do the same.

wessew10 said:

I received my LCD4's about a week ago and it looks like I already have a driver failure in my right channel.  I know it's the phones because my HD800's are fine.  This is troubling given the prior issues noted on this site.  I know I can send them out and get them repaired under warranty but I only have a couple of weeks in which to potentially return them for a refund.  I am not really prepared to spend this kind of money, no matter how good they sound, and then have to deal with the potential for repeated warranty repairs. 

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If you truly love them give them one more chance - I'm sure they will bend over backwards trying to help you. Any more failures and I would part ways with the product and the company all together, until they have built up a history of the LCD range being more reliable.

really hoping they fix the suspension issue and introduce it in vegan at the same time so i can upgrade both of my LCD as soon as they come out.

I went to the Venetian Tower at CES with the specific intent to listen to the DAVE/LCD4 combo. I used my AK240ss with various formats from red book to 24/192 as source. I wouldn't called my listening as serious audition as it is in show condition but I did have a good 45 minutes of quiet time with the combo with my own music. The physical construction of the LCD4 strikes me as well built, beautiful, luxurious, and definitely totl level workmanship. I talked to one of the owner of Audeze there about the issue of the leather band touching the top of the carbon fiber band and I was told that the leather band was made in China and somehow either the specification was not exact or off or they did not anticipate that the leather band was stretched and as a result it became loose or longer than originally anticipated. I commented to him that it should be a easy problem to fix. Just cut half and inch of leather off the band and reattached it back. I don't know if it will be fixed in future production.

The first thing that strike me with that combo is the low noise floor and the music is very clean and I attributed that to the DAVE. I then compare that to the Hugo that I had with me using the same set up and I notice that the Hugo cannot drive the LCD4. Toward the upper end of my listening volume range, the juice started to ran out and the sound started to crack, I did not notice that with the HEK and the Abyss even though all three totl should really be amped sufficiently.

The LCD4 definitely retained the Audeze house sound. I thought the presentation is very balance throughout the frequency range. Bass is tight but from recollection of my original LCD2 which I don't own anymore, still not as visceral as the original bass. I discussed this with the same person and was told that after the original LCD2 was made, they were not able to get the same membrane anymore. I thought the mid is very intimate and lush. I could definitely enjoy the LCD4 with what it can offer.

The Abyss, at 85dB SPL/mW didn't break up with the Hugo, but the LCD-4 at 100dB SPL/mW did? Something up there.

nztechfreak said:

The Abyss, at 85dB SPL/mW didn't break up with the Hugo, but the LCD-4 at 100dB SPL/mW did? Something up there.

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I had no issues with SPL using the LCD-3 with the Dave forefather Hugo.  I would think the Dave has a more powerful amp section.  Yes, that part is a mystery.

wessew10 said:

  I received my LCD4's about a week ago and it looks like I already have a driver failure in my right channel.  I know it's the phones because my HD800's are fine.  This is troubling given the prior issues noted on this site.  I know I can send them out and get them repaired under warranty but I only have a couple of weeks in which to potentially return them for a refund.  I am not really prepared to spend this kind of money, no matter how good they sound, and then have to deal with the potential for repeated warranty repairs. 

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I came here because I was considering getting a pair of 4's...  After having to replace my LCD3's 4 times and reading this, forget it.
 
Honestly, Audeze, get your act together.  JPS, Hifiman and others all make reliable planars.  At this point, to me, there is no excuse, especially on $2000 and $4000 headphones.  It's a shame, too.

paulchiu said:

I had no issues with SPL using the LCD-3 with the Dave forefather Hugo.  I would think the Dave has a more powerful amp section.  Yes, that part is a mystery.

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Strange indeed, I've used the LCD-4 with the Mojo (same output power as the Hugo) with no issues and I believe Macedonianhero also used it with one or both of these without issue.

nztechfreak said:

Strange indeed, I've used the LCD-4 with the Mojo (same output power as the Hugo) with no issues and I believe Macedonianhero also used it with one or both of these without issue.

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Actually I was using the AK240SS (in balanced mode)...could play them quite well. I also used my Hugo TT and GS-X Mk2...all were great with the LCD-4s.

i never had an issue with my hugo or mojo with my LCD-3 when i had it so i would be surprised if the 4's would have any problems

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wessew10 said:

I received my LCD4's about a week ago and it looks like I already have a driver failure in my right channel.  I know it's the phones because my HD800's are fine.  This is troubling given the prior issues noted on this site.  I know I can send them out and get them repaired under warranty but I only have a couple of weeks in which to potentially return them for a refund.  I am not really prepared to spend this kind of money, no matter how good they sound, and then have to deal with the potential for repeated warranty repairs. 

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If you truly love them give them one more chance - I'm sure they will bend over backwards trying to help you. Any more failures and I would part ways with the product and the company all together, until they have built up a history of the LCD range being more reliable.

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Consider other high-end audio makers who have "issues".  Head-Amp is notorious for missing shipping estimates for the Blue Hawaii SE -- by YEARS.  JAC Music takes forever with customer support on their superb EML tubes.  Another maker of high end amps is seriously lacking in communication skills.   iRiver makes a great portable amp, the AK 240, and then comes out with an amp, AK 380, that sounds no better for $1,000 more.  So far, Audeze has done an excellent job repairing and replacing their headphones, and that works for me.  Maybe it's just another burden we have to bear in pursuit of the best sound out there !     

That and 1-2 reported failures with no followups from relatively new members with low post #'s might not raise as big a red flag as people make it out to be.  At least I hope not, mine is on order as my final dynamic/planar purchase b4 diving into electrostat.  It'd be nice since Audeze is on the thread to respond to these "failures" in some constructive manner to let people know what's going on.

sensui123 said:

That and 1-2 reported failures with no followups from relatively new members with low post #'s might not raise as big a red flag as people make it out to be.  At least I hope not, mine is on order as my final dynamic/planar purchase b4 diving into electrostat.  It'd be nice since Audeze is on the thread to respond to these "failures" in some constructive manner to let people know what's going on.

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I'm not a new member and I've experienced failures. Still a big fan of Audeze though but it's a very dismal feeling when the headphones finally do go out

goldendarko said:

I'm not a new member and I've experienced failures. Still a big fan of Audeze though but it's a very dismal feeling when the headphones finally do go out

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Talking about lcd4. I have experienced failure on lcd3 and was taken cared off by audeze with extended warranty also.

macedonianhero said:

Actually I was using the AK240SS (in balanced mode)...could play them quite well. I also used my Hugo TT and GS-X Mk2...all were great with the LCD-4s.

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Did you return yours mate?